Meth Kit Install - Page 2

Killa_DSM · #16 07-31-2009, 03:51 AM

Nice write up, I have the exact same kit. I also added a pre-turbo nozzle. But I did not feel or log any real big improvement. This might be because my turbo isn't being maxed out enough to cool it down? I'm not sure, but I plan to move it to the throttle body elbow so I will be spraying 2 nozzles at the throttle body.

And steviek it looks like you have the older kit when they supplied 3 nozzles. Which is the same as mine. Do you know what sizes they were? Were they m3, m7, and m10?

I know it should say it on the nozzles but mine are kind of scratched up.

SilvrEclipse · #17 07-31-2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by boostjunkie333

Ok sorry right off the bat if this is a silly question, but I gotta ask.

Looking at how you taped into the i/c pipe right near the intake mani, I was wondering, what would happen if, you could somehow run nitrous AND this kit through the same hole/tap...like would mizing nitrous with this stuff hurt anything? can they be mixed before ever entering the intake stream?

No that will not work. Nitrous is injected at a much high pressure than meth is. You also would want to tap into each intake runner for your nitrous nozzels to make sure that you are distributing it evenly to each cylinder

boostjunkie333 · #18 07-31-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SilvrEclipse

No that will not work. Nitrous is injected at a much high pressure than meth is. You also would want to tap into each intake runner for your nitrous nozzels to make sure that you are distributing it evenly to each cylinder

that would be aaaa dry shot? And not doing that, would just be a bad way of using nitrous?(like taped into the i/c pipe like ive seen some ppl do) how do you put a nozzle on each intake runner? i wonder if i put a portfueler kit on mygsx(when the time comes) and run nitrous through that...would that be safe?

steviek · #19 07-31-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Killa_DSM

Nice write up, I have the exact same kit. I also added a pre-turbo nozzle. But I did not feel or log any real big improvement. This might be because my turbo isn't being maxed out enough to cool it down? I'm not sure, but I plan to move it to the throttle body elbow so I will be spraying 2 nozzles at the throttle body.

And steviek it looks like you have the older kit when they supplied 3 nozzles. Which is the same as mine. Do you know what sizes they were? Were they m3, m7, and m10?

I know it should say it on the nozzles but mine are kind of scratched up.

My kit came with the M10 M12 nad M14 nozzles

steviek · #20 07-31-2009, 01:52 PM

Update on this thread

Recently I removed the pressure switch because it does not work like it should. I had a feeling the meth wasn't working when I needed it properly. SO I wired an LED into the power source on the pump so it would read when my pump turns on. The pressure switch was coming on way too late. SO then I switched to so that the ecu now controls the pump via the nitrous controls on link. It works much better. Also now I don't have to worry about the meth spraying in between shifts.

SilvrEclipse · #21 07-31-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by boostjunkie333

that would be aaaa dry shot? And not doing that, would just be a bad way of using nitrous?(like taped into the i/c pipe like ive seen some ppl do) how do you put a nozzle on each intake runner? i wonder if i put a portfueler kit on mygsx(when the time comes) and run nitrous through that...would that be safe?

A 'dry' shot is when you just inject nitrous. A 'wet' shot is when you inject fuel along with the nitrous. To put nozzels in the intake manifold runners just drill and tap holes like you would on the intercooler pipe. Using portfueler spacer would work but would just be expensive. And I dont even know if they make portfueler for the 4g63 head. A 420a one will not work

Also as some of you know I just recently installed meth on my car. I have had a time getting MS to control it, for some reason the outputs are not working like they should. Anyways I really wanted to test it out so had my roomate sit in the back and jump the relay once I hit boost to log some temps. I noticed about a 25* decrease in temps when meth cut on. The temps actually dropped when it first cut on to ambient and then slowly increased. Intercooler started getting heatsoaked after a few runs but it still make a big differnence. Im running a M10 nozzel about 1.5ft in front of my IAT sensor.

boostjunkie333 · #22 07-31-2009, 06:49 PM

so, in theory, a portfueler could double as a good way to inject nitrous...or at least, possibly a wet shot...

im sorry i know this is way off topic, but im just trying to get this figured out..=)

im wondering if theres a way for me to run a wet shot thorugh my portfueler...like how would i mix the nitrous and fuel b4 it gets shot into the engine...and is this a safe place to shoot the nitrous? dont they make special fuel injecotrs that double as nitrous nozzles or somehting...

SilvrEclipse · #23 07-31-2009, 09:05 PM

Lets keep this thread on topic. PM sent to boostjunkie to answer his question.

Killa_DSM · #24 08-01-2009, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by steviek

Update on this thread

Recently I removed the pressure switch because it does not work like it should. I had a feeling the meth wasn't working when I needed it properly. SO I wired an LED into the power source on the pump so it would read when my pump turns on. The pressure switch was coming on way too late. SO then I switched to so that the ecu now controls the pump via the nitrous controls on link. It works much better. Also now I don't have to worry about the meth spraying in between shifts.

I was really considering to have link control mine as well. But the only problem I see is with v2 of link nitrous control turns off at 7950rpm. And once I get my 6 bolt in I plan on shifting around 8000 to 8500rpm. And I don't want the meth cutting out if I go over 8k.

steviek · #25 08-02-2009, 08:16 PM

you can change when the meth cuts out i believe

spyderturbo007 · #26 08-13-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by steviek

SO then I switched to so that the ecu now controls the pump via the nitrous controls on link. It works much better. Also now I don't have to worry about the meth spraying in between shifts.

Can you elaborate on how you did that?

I talked to Dave & Tom when I was down visiting their shop and inquired about using the switchable map feature in v3 as a safety device. Right now I'm running a clogged nozzle detector in case I run out mid-pull, but you still have to worry about reaction time.

Now that there are additional inputs at the ECU, I was thinking of wiring the clogged nozzle detector to the ECU and have ECMLink choose the appropriate map depending on weather or not the MeOH was active. Although we didn't have a chance to get into the details, they said it was possible.

That way if you were to run out of MeOH mid pull, the ECU would automatically jump fuel / timing maps to compensate. No more worrying about running out. I just haven't had time to explore it further.

steviek · #27 08-13-2009, 03:10 PM

Well I have v2. And the nitrous controls basically just ground pin 3 on the ecu. SO instead of the pressure switch grounding the relay I used the ecu. The nitrous controls let you pick what rpm and throttle posistion you want it to activate on and just hit enable nitrous controls and remove the dam FPS solenoid from the regulator and you're done.

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