Before I make an Ass of myself...

[mistermoonpie]

Hey guys OK I got a quick question here. My g/f used to be best friends with this guy, then he got an automatic 2006 Mustang (v6) and now he thinks hes all bad and he's an ass to her, so obviously we don't like him very much. I have a 97 3KGT sl with manual transmission. I think it would be really satisfying to beat him in a race, but it would be even more embarassing to lose. So, "before I make an ass of myself", I wanted to know if you guys think that a manual 3kgt would beat an auto 06 mustang in the 1/4 mile or somethin from dead stop. thanks

[Shpyder]

Bench racing is baaaad.

Those new mustang V6's are 210hp, 4.0L. He's RWD, so he's got more drivetrain power loss that your FWD, plus he's an auto and his car has a 6100 RPM redline... those things dont exactly make it a firecracker on the drag strip.

Youre making about the same power as his car with less torque, but you have a higher redline, plus a manual tranny, and dont have as much drivetrain loss. But keep in mind the fact that your car is 10 years older than his...depends on how much you want to push it.

I'd bet the odds were actually with you. I'd give it a shot.

[mistermoonpie]

Well my car is in EXCELLENT condition for how old it is, it even still smells like new car leather. And I've seen him drive by a few times, and his car makes some pretty nasty sounds, like the engine is't quite right or something, so i figured that increased my chances a little. He treats his car like shit, so I wouldnt be surprised if it had some mechanical problems. I wouldn't push it to redline, but if it meant winning I would have no problem takin it up to around 6300 rpms. I'm fairly confident in my driving skills if that helps at all

[mistermoonpie]

I'm not planning on takin this to a track or anything. I was just wondering, if he should ever pull up next to me at a red light, whether it would be worth it to have a quick little 0-60 race or somethin like that. On that note, would I be better off makin it a longer race? I have no idea whether I would have more luck from 0-60 or if i would do better at a higher speed.

[Hotshot8792]

V6 mustangs are dogs, you shouldn't have any problems taking him if your at least a decent driver

Edit: I just noticed he said new mustang. That will make it a close race, but they are still dogs.

[mistermoonpie]

Sounds like im pretty much gettin a thumbs up on this. With that said, I know most of you have vr-4's, but what rpm range should I shift at for max power? If I remember correctly, they get 2**hp at 5500RPM's (but i could be wrong) so does that mean shat I should shift at 5500 for max power, or should i push to 6000 so im at higher rpm's when i get to the next gear?

[talskinyguy]

I think you will lose. They run low 15's and have a traction advantage. The only time FWD is better than RWD is when cost is involved. cheaper to make, cheaper to drive.

[jason_bet]

you should GET UP IN HIS GRILL! haha get him to race you for 700 bucks!! and then go buy a $700 nitrous set up with a 75 shot and kick his ass then you got the kit for free! haha

Thats what I would do.. however, you wont redline your car.. so my guess is nitrous scares you...

[BeZerK2112]

Originally Posted by jason_bet

you should GET UP IN HIS GRILL! haha get him to race you for 700 bucks!! and then go buy a $700 nitrous set up with a 75 shot and kick his ass then you got the kit for free! haha

I love that Idea!

You should be careful. You have a little more power then he does but he has a lot more torque. It would be a really close race. You can win is if he drives like an idiot but in reality he just has to mash the gas. You would need a good launch and great shifting. Let us know if it ever happens.

BTW he bought a chick car!

[talskinyguy]

Debateable on the 3000GT having more power.

[TorchedStealth]

I would say give it a try and dont be afraid to redline your car. I wouldnt go around doing it everyday but it wont hurt to do it once and a while. My friend's dad had a 05 V6 mustang convertible auto and from a roll it seem just a little quicker than me, but im auto. They do launch pretty good for an auto tho so be careful there. I could tell you a close estimate on how close it will be because i was supposed to race him but he totalled the car and ended up in the hospital 2 weeks ago. But im auto anyways, you will have a better chance. O yeah and i would go up to a higher speed because our aerodynamics are way better than the new stangs.

[mistermoonpie]

alright so now it seems like im gettin more mixed responses here. FIRST OF ALL, torchedstealth I hope your friends dad gets better soon. second of all, I am confident in my shifting abilities, and I'm not afraid to redline it if it means that I have a better chance, as long as you guys promise it won't mess up the car (no nitrous for me tho, too 'spensive). Third, could the fact that his car sounds messed up play a huge role when it comes to power? Ya know when you drive down the street and someone drives by in an old beat up van that makes strange sounds and you think "GOD i hope that isn't MY car makin those noises"? well thats the sound it makes when he drives, more or less. I've been behind him in a turn only-lane once, and he pulled one of those chickenshit moves where they speed off before the light turns so I'm left off guard, and I followed him and kept up the whole time. So judging by that I dont thikn that his car can beat mine once we get goin. What's the top speed on the mustang? And he has the JUDGE on his, but I dont know whether there's one on the 3kgt's too, and what kind of difference it wuold make anyway

[Twizted_3KGT]

It'll be close...that's the point of racing, to find out...sitting here talking about it will not give you a definite answer. If I drove my g/f's '94 SL, I would win against a stock '06 Stang V6. Depends on if you know how to launch/shift. V6 Stangs have always been POS's in my book, but they're getting more "respectable" now....i guess.

[VR43000GT]

With some good driving it would be close. If you are afraid to take your car high up in the power band then forget it.

[TorchedStealth]

Originally Posted by mistermoonpie

FIRST OF ALL, torchedstealth I hope your friends dad gets better soon.

Hes better now. The funny thing is he is a cop and he was speeding and all that. Its scary though because i was messing around with him in the 4-lane one-way after school going around traffic and stuff (dont worry i was safe) and then about an hour later he totalled the car.