Borla Exhaust: go or no-go?

[vr4choke]

i've been thinking of getting a new exhaust system for a while now as i am just not satisfied with the look, sound, or flow, of the stock one. i found this cool little package from Borla( http://www.borla.com/applications/lo...System/15443/)
and i think i might wanna get it but it seems pretty pricey. what i wanna know is whether or not this a good system and also whether it is worth the money. on that note, if anyone knows a cheaper place to source it from, please let me know

as always, any and all help is much appreciated

BTW i live in California so emmision laws do apply but i dont think that should really matter, right?

[Stealthee]

Borla is a kick ass setup

If thats what you want check out www.MaximalPerformance.com

Prices are good and include shipping.

[jason_bet]

Borla Exhaust on our cars is great!

The best place to get it from though is for sure PMP. In stock and Great price with free shipping! + They have great customer support!

Borla Exhaust 3000gt

[sLADe781]

PMP FTW! Great prices and outstanding customer service!!!

EDIT: BTW, where in CA are you located? I'm in the Bay Area.

[vr4choke]

you mean the monterey bay area? we might be pretty close as i'm living in monterey itself, at least for the time being

[jason_bet]

Hey dude.. PMP has the borla on sale for there Black Friday Sale. http://www.pricematchedparts.com/index.php?p=home

[toddrs93]

I think you guys are nuts, I can't stand Borla. There are 5 VR4's here with Borla systems right now, I see Borlas all the time. Its very raspy, and irritating at high speeds. Keep tylenol in the car for the headaches it gives you on long drives. Borla and ATR had the only sytems available back in the day so there are alot of them out there. Then a little while ago a couple shops started doing custom setups using straight 3.5" piping back split into 2 3" pipes into Apex N1's. They sound absolutely amazing. A deep, mean sound thats very aggressive but not over bearing. Vibrant mufflers also produce an identical sound. As a matter of fact, we had several cars where we cut off the borla mufflers, then welded on adapters and then the N1's using the existing borla piping. Still the same but 3" pipe instead of 3.5". I would reccommend buying Vibrant or Apex N1 mufflers off a shop or ebay, then having an exhaust shop build a custom setup for you. I am sure you will be much happier than with the Borla's.

[toymaker3000gt]

Originally Posted by toddrs93

I think you guys are nuts, I can't stand Borla. There are 5 VR4's here with Borla systems right now, I see Borlas all the time. Its very raspy, and irritating at high speeds. Keep tylenol in the car for the headaches it gives you on long drives. Borla and ATR had the only sytems available back in the day so there are alot of them out there. Then a little while ago a couple shops started doing custom setups using straight 3.5" piping back split into 2 3" pipes into Apex N1's. They sound absolutely amazing. A deep, mean sound thats very aggressive but not over bearing. Vibrant mufflers also produce an identical sound. As a matter of fact, we had several cars where we cut off the borla mufflers, then welded on adapters and then the N1's using the existing borla piping. Still the same but 3" pipe instead of 3.5". I would reccommend buying Vibrant or Apex N1 mufflers off a shop or ebay, then having an exhaust shop build a custom setup for you. I am sure you will be much happier than with the Borla's.

That sounds good and all but borla doesnt have the wet farting sound lol what about the N1 mufflers? I really dont want an exhaust thats going to make that sound

[toddrs93]

Originally Posted by toymaker3000gt

That sounds good and all but borla doesnt have the wet farting sound lol what about the N1 mufflers? I really dont want an exhaust thats going to make that sound

well I don't think your going to get that sound with any dual exhaust set up on this car. Thats mainly 4 cylinder cars that sound like that. And I'm telling you the borla sounds closer to that sound than the N1's do.

[Stealthee]

Im not a fan of the N1's on our cars, whether TT or NA. Borla has a nice deep rumbly sound.

[vr4choke]

i'm revisiting this idea guys, since im getting a pretty hefty tax return. but anwway, now im debating between this setup, and the 2 others on 3sx: the tanabe concept or the JIC twin spartan. anything i get will be catback since this is a street car. now im wondering what kind of power increases i could expect from each of these, and whether or not the other 2 are worth the 500 dollars more, since the borla is cheapest. help?

[toddrs93]

Originally Posted by vr4choke

i'm revisiting this idea guys, since im getting a pretty hefty tax return. but anwway, now im debating between this setup, and the 2 others on 3sx: the tanabe concept or the JIC twin spartan. anything i get will be catback since this is a street car. now im wondering what kind of power increases i could expect from each of these, and whether or not the other 2 are worth the 500 dollars more, since the borla is cheapest. help?

Never seen the JIC but we did a tanabe concept g a while ago, I like that one without a cat. It is a similar sound to the N1's, almost like a deep growl when you open it up. The power increase from a catback system is probably going to be close to the same no matter what system you pick, and really depends on the rest of the car (turbos, boost levels, ems, etc.). It definately looks better, I'll try to get a pic of it on the car today, compared to a borla set-up.

[Hans_GZP]

I've done 1 jic exhaust. It is absolutely beautiful and sounds great. Fitment is excellent. The tanabe exhaust fits nice too. My older customers prefer me to change the tips on them because they think it is too "boy racer"

[vr4choke]

ok so here is a link to my wish list on 3sx, (since that is easier than typing out everything) showing the parts i would like to get. http://3sx.com/store/comersus_wishListPublic.asp?email=this_stentorium@ hotmail.com&idCustomer=10744
im now thinking that the downpipe, with a random tech highflo cat and the tanabe concept would be pretty cool. my next question is whether or not these three things will attach correctly to each other. i think they should but im not positive. and also, the biggest question: this setup would cost almost 2k, so is it worth it? and this wont make me fail emmissions will it? thanks again guys