Group Build: Lotus LS2

[deltableh]

Progress thread here: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=597006

This is a Lotus Super Seven with a C6 Corvette's LS2 small block V8 shoehorned into it. The pictures are rubbish because it's so late... I'll try to get some natural light ones very soon!










Thanks for looking!

[theOmni]

Sorry, I didn't read through your text.

But One question: Why is it slanted in the front?

BUt all else looks nicely done! Good work!

[deltableh]

The nose was slanted because I put it on wrong. Luckily, the glue didn't fully dry, so I just fixed it. Thanks for pointing that out!

If you're talking about the wheels, well, it's hard mating a Revell wheel to a Tamiya hub!

[Mr. Me.]

Is it Rat rod? It seems to me to me so

[deltableh]

It's just a Super Seven with a V8... anything else is coincidence.

[deltableh]

Here are all the new pictures I took, with a fixed nose and in natural light.

[bigfrit]

I don't like it! Bleh more or less concludes my first view after reading your screenname.

You should first try your hand at basic stuff...

The paint sucks, the modifications (especially front wheels) suck and the result is not really convincing, with the rubbish rollcage and crappy inserting of other kit's parts.

I m sorry, I know it sounds very harsh, but it's all about "helping" each other here, right?

I m helping you by saying you should first get your basics right.

Sorry for the hard post, I felt the need to give criticism with a solution.


Hope you're not too mad


Edit; I would like to hear all your views on this and similar posts ; please express your views on the thread http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=655722

[SchuberT]

I have to agree with bigfrit. It's a great idea, and you did well making it work... but your model is lacking care in the more important, fundamental areas.

[ep-hatcher-510]

needs a repaint, fix that roll cage and the front wheels, other than that it looks good.

[MPWR]

Hey guys, are we maybe laying it on a bit thick?

I can completely appreciate the honesty here- but I think we might be carrying the 'constructive criticism' idea a bit far. Few of us produce 'perfect' models- or even build consistently at a level that we ourselves are satisfied with. But think for a moment- what would be useful for you?

There are useful ways to constructively criticise. If you're following a build thread and point out "hey, there's some orange peel there, this is how I often deal with it", that can be helpful. Looking at a completed build and saying "your painting skills suck", or "your painting skills could be better", or even "strip it and repaint it" isn't really helpful. Skills like painting develop only by practice- it's only by doing less than perfect bodies that allows us to learn how to do better. I expect we all know that the builder of a model is much more aware of the build shortcomings than anyone who just sees four pics of it. Few of us then really need to be told "hey, you're not there yet". You're being invited to view someone's learning processes. Most people post completed builds when they feel they are done- that they have taken a build as far as they can, and have done the best that they can with it. There's nothing at all wrong with giving suggestions while a build is underway. But if what you see completed is as good as the builder thinks he/she can do, do you really need to tell them "It could be better"?

[MPWR]

I like it. It's a creative idea and an ambitious conversion. This type of fun and outlandish conversion is exactly what a group build is supposed to encourage. Good on you for doing it, and thanks for sharing and building along! It's the kind of thing I would find myself tempted to try and easy to start, but hard to bring myself to complete. I admire that you stuck with it and finished it- that's a skill I wish I could master.

The roll cage, uncovered engine, and fenderless wheels make it look alot like a Caterham prepared for a IMSA or SCCA event. Crazy and cool.

[KTem]

Okay, the finishing could have been better in some areas, but it still looks good. From a distance. Make that three kilometers. And wrap it in a paper bag, first.

Hehe, just kidding. Hehe. He. Oh, I'm such a joker. Nevertheless, it is a cool model. Okay, there are blemishes, and it doesn't look like it could just drive away on this very moment, like models made by, to name two, Kunta or Hiroboy do. But on other areas, such as originality, this is a really good model. That's just me speaking, though.

[wouter1981]

Can't say i like it. it looks to me you tryed something WAY over youre skill level, or you had to finish as fast as possible. The idee is nice, and I can understand things like the paint crazing. It's a long and hard progress to learn how to lay a good paintjob down. But little thing like no steering wheel? You used carbon fibre on the engine, did a rather nice job with the entire engine, and then you dind't bother to align the wheels correctly. The rollbar looks just like some clipped of spreu.. wich it is.
I've seen you're focus RS and it's WAY better than this car. I just don't get it.. you seam to gave a lot more skill than you displayed here, I'm sorry.

BTW I've done a caterham to... feel free do comment about it;-)

[bhop73]

I'll admit it has its problems, but the questions I want to ask are 1)Did YOU have fun building it? 2)Are YOU happy with the outcome?

If your answers are yes, then I wouldn't worry about the "suck" comments too much.. I do think you could use more practice, but try not to get discouraged and just stick with it, have fun, and your skills will improve with time.

[klutz_100]

Hmm..intersting build but the thread could prove to be even more interesting.

OK. Before posting here, I decided to do some surfing on the forum (profiles, posts etc)

First of all, congratulations for taking on a pretty major conversion of a kit. Not an easy task any day and you did it - I never have. I guess you put in a fair bit of time and effort and I hope you had fun doing it.

Secondly, let me tell you honestly, That if, as modeler with 500 posts, you post a model in the completed forum with wonky wheels, orange peel in the paint, a hole in the back plate and crooked exhaust pipes you leave members with 3 choices.
a) Walk on by
b) Lie and say "OMG that's so awsome"
c) Post criticism - hopefully and preferably constructive in nature

IMO your build requires the third approach. But for you not for me.

I don't agree with how Bigfrit said it, but I do agree with what I believe his intentions were.

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