1989 Honda Accord carb issues

[pkastagehand]

I have an 89 Accord with the carburetor. They tell me at the shop that they won't touch these carbs anymore because even after doing $500 worth of work they can't guarantee it will run any better than when I brought it in. I think these things are supposed to be setup using nitrogen or something and all kinds of complicated crap to get idle, choke, etc., etc. set right.

What I wonder is, could this carb be replaced with something simpler and cheaper and easier to adjust? Anyone done that? What vacuum hoses to I have to eliminate or reroute, etc.?

[russiankid]

what problems are you having? i have a 89 accord with a carb, im just having problems with the choke, but thats it, i have a carb sitting in the garage that my bro rebuilt for me, there is a kit you can buy to rebuild it, it comes with instructions and everything, just go to a junk yard and get a carb, and rebuild it and replace it, replacing it yourself is a good weekend project, but again we need to know what your problem is

[pkastagehand]

I'm not sure that I want to mess with this carb. Even the pros won't touch them if they can help it, though dealer's shops may be stuck with it now and again. That's why I wondered if there was an after market or conversion that anyone has done.

It take forever to tap down to slow idle like linkage hangs up or a vacuum dashpot is taking forever to unload. After it does it often seems as though it "loads" up, like an engine with too much choke on. Running up the RPM for a bit will usually clear it again but that's hard to do in town with stop signs and lights all over the place. Rough running when at slower speed and idle including stalling.

Another issue is cutting out but that may be electrical since it acts exactly as if someone turned off the key for a half a second or so.

Don't know if this helps.

Originally Posted by russiankid

what problems are you having? i have a 89 accord with a carb, im just having problems with the choke, but thats it, i have a carb sitting in the garage that my bro rebuilt for me, there is a kit you can buy to rebuild it, it comes with instructions and everything, just go to a junk yard and get a carb, and rebuild it and replace it, replacing it yourself is a good weekend project, but again we need to know what your problem is

[russiankid]

thats timing, the "pro's" dont want to mess with it cuz its some work invovled, so thats why, my mine used to do that, i replaced the PCV vavle, breather filter, put a K&N air filter, change fuel filters, adjusted timing, and cleaned the carb with carb cleaner and it runs great, just when its cold the choke doesnt open

[jeffcoslacker]

Before you drive yourself crazy with the carb, check your coolant level....lots of Jap carbs won't come off fast idle/choke if the coolant is low and temp isn't being sensed right....

And yes, those carbs are a nightmare, and I enjoy rebuilding carbs, but you couldn't pay me enough to get involved with one of those.

Are you talking about propane enrichment calibration? EEK!!

It's easy to rebuild Honda carbs. Getting them tweaked just perfect so they work right can drive a strong man to tears.

If you've learned to deal with it the way it is, that may prove less frustrating than trying to correct it...

[jeffcoslacker]

PS, after getting burned on a few of those, both in-shop and parts store bought rebuilds, our policy was replace with a genuine Honda service parts carb (probably about $500), or forget it...

9 times outta 10, works perfect right outta the box, no adjustments, no come back.

The "pro's" know when to cut losses, russky

[russiankid]

Originally Posted by jeffcoslacker

PS, after getting burned on a few of those, both in-shop and parts store bought rebuilds, our policy was replace with a genuine Honda service parts carb (probably about $500), or forget it...

9 times outta 10, works perfect right outta the box, no adjustments, no come back.

The "pro's" know when to cut losses, russky

not all, i went to a honda dealer and asked a pro on how many bottles of power steering fluid i needed for my car, he said 4, so i bought 4, i told him the year and model and everything, i ended up coming back and getting 4 more