Which car would u pick ?

[flylwsi]

i guess my point is that even the turbo vw has equalish hp and tq.

so, if you turbo a vr6 you get (still) almost equal hp and tq numbers.
if you turbo a b series vtec motor, you get the same gap...
for example...
the scc that had the four 400hp cars.
the teg had like 496hp, and muuuuuuuuuch lower tq.
the nissan had 475hp and alllllllllllllllooooooooootttttttt more tq than the teg...
see what i am sayin?

and i know that vtec is designed to have a "street"cam at low rpm, and an asskikker at high, but what i am saying is that you can raise redline w/ a lighter motor and still have equal tq, like the previous examples...

and on the focus svt...
i guess my pt is that the tq is really close to the hp, and really close the s2k number... thats all, so at least from take off it would be close, especially b/c the focus has it alot lower.
and the s2k has a tq number close to the lude, and a hp number way higher...

and the tq is lower!
if it is so tuned, it should have at least the tq of the prelude... especially b/c it kills it in hp...
i am NOT putting the s2k down at all, i am simply noting that other manufacturers keep tq and hp alot closer, thats all, and they are even uppin the redlines too... so both are possible...
thassall

[F20C]

With Turbo you are packing more air into the engine. More air = power! It's hard to compare Turbocharged engine with N/A engine. Turbo cars are way easier to tuned for equal hp and torque rating.

Ferrari F360 has high hp and low torque rating. It was tuned mostly for hp purpose. That's why it's 3.5L V8 produces 400hp and 276tq. Hp is actual fast and torque is make you think it's fast.

Take a look at Euro Spec Tiburon 2.0L inline4. It was tuned mostly for torque purpose. Therefore it produces 137hp and 180b-ft torque.

What engine was the Nissan using?

Prelude has more displacement that's why it can make torque easier.

If Honda didn't tuned S2000 engine as much for HP. It can very well have 200hp and 200lbs torque.

It really depends on how each manufacture tuned their engine for.

[F20C]

Flylwsi don't worry you are not putting down the S2000. Feel free to comment on the car.

[krnlpanik]

It was really tough making a decision bettween the Type R and the IS.
In all reality, go with the IS. I just test drove on of those puppy's tonite. Definatly a great car. However, I just couldn't turn my back on the type R. Loyalty over Logic. Sorry Type R for me.

[Chris]

The IS. Because its practical, and fast. There is lots of room for tuneability, too. And it will be faster than a Type R, because it has more torque over a broader rev-range.

[G-Forces]

F20C, flylwsi: Please try and stay on topic guys!

[AEstud]

The Acura Integra Type R Phoenix Yellow 2001 is really the ony car you have on there that I've seen in action and it looks nice and preforms well.

[madtownhonda]

I would get the ITR...I would get the IS last....go drive a used m3....ISwhat?

Drive a used E36 M3, you can get one for around $30K, maybe more, maybe less...it's the best car I've ever driven...I would also look into a S4 at around $30K...also fun cars to drive...2.7L twin turbo quattro puts a smile on your face

[Chris]

M3's only depreciate about 5000 for an early E36 M3. So it isnt a good deal.

[JBL85]

Maxima any day...reliable and powerful with easy upgradability =)

but i guess thats how the other cars are. Just that the Maxima and Type R are closest speed competitors in that category =)

[RazorGTR]

None. Sorry they are all slugs

[JBL85]

SHUDDUP....not our fault we live in US and we dont get damn freakin cool skylines

[Knightsport]

Originally posted by jay@af
As long as you're throwing hp/L stats around, I might as well mention the S2K, with 240 hp (some say 250, but I'll be conservative) coming out of a 1997cc engine, has a power to displacement ratio of about 120 hp/L, the highest of any naturally-aspirated, factory-produced engine on Earth.

But it wasn't one of the choices, so nevermind.

WRONG!!!

The 1987 RX-7 GTU 160Hp 897cc or 1.3 litres=123hp/litre.

Mazda,still the king of HP/LT!! :smoka:

[Knightsport]

Originally posted by F20C
With Turbo you are packing more air into the engine. More air = power! It's hard to compare Turbocharged engine with N/A engine. Turbo cars are way easier to tuned for equal hp and torque rating.

Ferrari F360 has high hp and low torque rating. It was tuned mostly for hp purpose. That's why it's 3.5L V8 produces 400hp and 276tq. Hp is actual fast and torque is make you think it's fast.

Take a look at Euro Spec Tiburon 2.0L inline4. It was tuned mostly for torque purpose. Therefore it produces 137hp and 180b-ft torque.

What engine was the Nissan using?

Prelude has more displacement that's why it can make torque easier.

If Honda didn't tuned S2000 engine as much for HP. It can very well have 200hp and 200lbs torque.

It really depends on how each manufacture tuned their engine for.

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read.

Horsepower is a mathematical function of torque. Torque is what makes a car fast off the line,it's what makes the car "pull."

A good saying to rememeber,"Torque gets you there,HP keeps you there."

[Knightsport]

Originally posted by F20C


Cars making similar hp/litre with S2000 that have more torque all have bigger displacement. For example a E46 M3 is 3.2L and S2000 is only 2.0L!

The E46 makes 333hp and just as much torque,how is that similar to the S2000?