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Old 10-31-2002, 11:53 AM
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Maybee if you read the thread you would know that the people here haven't actually used it so why judge it?
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Maybee if you read the thread you would know that the people here haven't actually used it so why judge it?
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like I said (nuetral)
[quote]shepworldwide[b]

but i never used it so (neutral) also[/i][b]

ok we all say neutral!! read the thread fourm whore:finger:
go buy 1 and tell us how it is.....

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Go buy the stupid thing. You have posted this on a couple of boards and 1 person who used it and didn't know what to think. And then there are all the countless others who have negatives to say about it.

Just go buy the stupid thing and get it over with. It looks like you're set on buying it anyway. Just don't come back and whine.
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How can you judge a product just because noone you know or yourself has not used it?
It's called using common sense and knowing how an engine works. You don't have to use a product to know it's not going to work
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if you ever end up getting a dent or ding you can get the "ding-king" to pull it out
it's all crap in my opinion..
my cousin has that and it has actually worked for a couple of his smalls dings. Some of the dents wouldn't come out, but a couple of them did.
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All of you relize that you are mearly guessing going off the popular belief. There are alot of followers to many popular beliefs like Religion and is it true or not is the question that we cant answer nor does common sence have any involvement in the matter.

I was hopping to get some feedback from someone who actually has used it and dynoed it on their Civic. Seeing how everyone here is all into "Noticable Fast Gains" then this is the wrong place to ask about this device. Yea the K&N filter doesn't give notacible Hp diffrence but, it sure blocks more particles more so then the stock filter and it last alot longer. I'm sure alot of people here would rather use steroids instead of working out regularly since using steroids would be a "Fast" way to gain muscle but, in fact it does nothing if you don't work out or put your body into fatigue.

Looks like my only option is to actually try the product out myself since this was a lost cause to ask in here. :grey:
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What the H*LL are you taling about?

TheDarkInfluence,
No one here has mentioned anything about steroids or religion. Hell, we haven't even said that we are looking for a "noticable fast gain". We are simply saying that we feel that there is a better way to spend $70 on our car (that's money that we can put toward a new filter or intake ). As I said earlier, IF it did actually add 20 HP THEN we would buy it, and so would alot of other people, but it obviously doesn't because no one has it. Everyone is looking for an edge in order to extract the last little bit of HP from their car, but we're not wanting to throw their hard earned money down the crapper. Most of the serious tuners I know are willing to spend a couple of hundred dollars just for 5 or 6 HP to the wheels. Is 5 or 6 HP a "noticable fast gain"? NO.
It has become obvious to me that you either have one of these devices or you're waiting for yours to be delivered. Seeing as how you are either planning on purchasing on or have already, isn't it you that is looking for the cheap and easy "steriod" fix for your HP problem? I would rather rebuild my engine using JDM Type-R parts and end up spending more money, than to get some gimmick that has the potential to ruin my engine when it self destructs. But, go right ahead and get your precious "Tornado", spend the $70 on a "NOTICABLE FAST GAIN" for you ride. Meanwhile, just remember that when you need a ride to the shop to pick up your car after you destoyed your engine when a fin went through the intake, that you'll be riding in the car of someone that spent the time and the effort to really "work out their engine" and didn't use the "steriods" like you did.
Funny isn't it?
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Re: What the H*LL are you taling about?

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No one here has mentioned anything about steroids or religion. As I said earlier, IF it did actually add 20 HP THEN we would buy it, and so would alot of other people, but it obviously doesn't because no one has it. Is 5 or 6 HP a "noticable fast gain"? NO.
The talk about steroids was an illustration.
And maybe it really does add some HP, do you know? Maybe everyone just thinks it's crap so that's why they don't have it. And 5 to 6 HP is a very noticeable gain, anyone that is actually into tuning knows that it is and they can definately feel it. Why do you think people even take out their backseat when racing, that won't even make 1/2 a HP difference, but yet it still makes their car faster. So 5 to 6 HP is definately a noticeable fast gain!
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I know that when an engine is maxed out and/or when you are just begining to work on the car that 5 or 6 HP is a good increase. All I'm saying is that if ANY product for under $70 could give +20 HP and +10% MPG, then these and other forum boards would be lit up with people exclaiming the virtues of this innovative system. I don't see anybody doing that. I'm sure that someone has purchased these things, if they work so well then why aren't they bragging about how they "got in" before everyone else? If these things are so great, then were is the proof? Yes the ads show dyno charts, but remember that the Tobacco companies also tried saying that smoking wasn't bad for you. I know that that's a weird comparison, but the truth is that companies tweak number's and facts to meet their ads.
Another thing, if these wonderful creations work so well, and are able to boost HP and MPG, then why aren't the car manufactures using them?
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Old 11-01-2002, 08:16 AM
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While you're at it, purchase this too:


Also if you believe everything you see on tv I know someone selling a 700hp streetable Civic that runs the 1/4 in 7 seconds. It has Altezza taillights, Fast & Furious stickers on the side, it's automatic, has a 7 speed sequential shifter, and has air bags to lower it for drag races and raise it up for the drive home.

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Looks like my only option is to actually try the product out myself since this was a lost cause to ask in here
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and hearsay. If you are so set on purchasing it then do it. I can't believe how gullable some people are. Did you buy Tornado yet so we can stop all this bickering?
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I was also planning on putting one of those blow-off valve simulators on my car as well. Do you think that would help my carbed '89 Prelude S?


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Old 11-01-2002, 08:43 AM
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Companies aren't going to include a better intake or exaust or better suspension etc etc... cause its not cost efficent for the average consumer paying for this type of car in it's class. All of that is considered modded material after you purchace the vehicle unless you pay high price for a car which would have it included already or if its an option when purchacing the caras new. If you buy a better car to start with like a BMW, Mustang etc etc then you'll get more features then a stock low end economy car but, the car itself will be more money at sticker price even without adding options cause the car itself comes with better parts in more areas. If companies included all this then the car wouldn't be affordable to the average person off the street so they want to make it cost efficent as possible.

The reason why your not going to see people talking about this product is because 1. It's still new and 2. They "Think" and do not know. It all comes down to someone saying what they think and because they don't know then its just their opinion they are boasting in the forum.

Like I said I'm going to buy the product having the local auto store order it so I don't have to pay for shipping/handling charges just to get the facts straight instead of reading random comments from users that have no experience with the product themselves but, heard rumors and only follow the popular belief that's why they don't care to investigate for themselves. Oh I'm sure it probably doesn't do anything at all but, you will never know untill you try. At least I will have more proof if it works or not rather then all of the random opinions clogging this forum about this device.

You all have been very helpfull.
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Old 11-01-2002, 08:46 AM
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Just please remember though, that if and when it doesn't work then you're still out close to $70.
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While you're at it, purchase this too:


Also if you believe everything you see on tv I know someone selling a 700hp streetable Civic that runs the 1/4 in 7 seconds. It has Altezza taillights, Fast & Furious stickers on the side, it's automatic, has a 7 speed sequential shifter, and has air bags to lower it for drag races and raise it up for the drive home.



Everyone is entitled to their opinions and hearsay. If you are so set on purchasing it then do it. I can't believe how gullable some people are. Did you buy Tornado yet so we can stop all this bickering?
Rotflmao! :cwn27: (repeat action) sorry guys I remain nuetral but that was too good....lmao its like 1 psi right lol
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The reason why your not going to see people talking about this product is because 1. It's still new and 2. They "Think" and do not know. It all comes down to someone saying what they think and because they don't know then its just their opinion they are boasting in the forum.
this peice of crap mod may b new to you..but it's been out 4 years now.



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You all have been very helpfull.
apparently we have'nt been helpful if your still gonna waste ur money on this peice of crap!

if u wern't so ni-eve you would belive all of us instead of an as seen on tv ad...

make sure u get some duralube in case ur intake sucks the fins in:silly2:
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