"Tamper" mode? Starts/stalls repeatedly, 10 minutes later it's fine - Page 2

Chevy-SS · #16 01-11-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tall

Where did you guys have your remote starts installed? They make an aftermarket Security By Pass for these vehicles. It runs about 60 bucks, depending on what alarm you have the price does differ. As far as I know, with the by pass…there is no issue.

What it does, is tricks the security system into thinking their is a key in the ignition...

Yeah, I saw those things, but why bother? I'd just as soon do the permanent bypass for pennies and then not worry about it anymore. If a crook wants to steal my vehicle, he'll get it regardless of how many anti-theft devices are on it.

ponchonutty · #17 01-11-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tall

Where did you guys have your remote starts installed? They make an aftermarket Security By Pass for these vehicles. It runs about 60 bucks, depending on what alarm you have the price does differ. As far as I know, with the by pass…there is no issue.

What it does, is tricks the security system into thinking their is a key in the ignition...

I know, I sell remote starters. The problem is that the bypasses won't work in this matter. You have to trigger them in order to get them to send the "signal". You can't just constantly have the bypass being triggered. That's not how they work.

For instance, my DEI #555L bypass for Passlock1 and 2, it is setup to "read" the code each time you start it with the key.

steve in alaska · #18 01-16-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tall

Where did you guys have your remote starts installed? They make an aftermarket Security By Pass for these vehicles. It runs about 60 bucks, depending on what alarm you have the price does differ. As far as I know, with the by pass…there is no issue.

What it does, is tricks the security system into thinking their is a key in the ignition...

I installed a Bulldog remote with a 791 security bypass module on my 2002 GMC Sierra..When it would get down to about 10 degrees above, and I tried to remote start it, it would just crank, and not start. Then my security light would come on, and even the key wouldn't start it for about 10 minutes. I guessed I had a faulty bypass module, and apparently I was right. After swapping to a new one, the security light stayed off. Bear in mind, now one of the ignition modules has gone south on me, (a year later, after replacing the security module) but I'm just gonna upgrade my remote starter. I've put over 20 of these things in, and although it's not rocket science, they ARE time consuming!
The homemade resistor bypass is interesting!

ponchonutty · #19 01-16-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by steve in alaska

I installed a Bulldog remote with a 791 security bypass module on my 2002 GMC Sierra..When it would get down to about 10 degrees above, and I tried to remote start it, it would just crank, and not start. Then my security light would come on, and even the key wouldn't start it for about 10 minutes. I guessed I had a faulty bypass module, and apparently I was right. After swapping to a new one, the security light stayed off. Bear in mind, now one of the ignition modules has gone south on me, (a year later, after replacing the security module) but I'm just gonna upgrade my remote starter. I've put over 20 of these things in, and although it's not rocket science, they ARE time consuming!
The homemade resistor bypass is interesting!

Yeah, I hate those Bulldog systems. The company is based here in Ohio not too far from my shop but I just can't stand them. I did 2 of their systems earlier this week and neither one worked right!

Chevy-SS · #20 02-02-2005, 08:21 PM

Just a follow-up. I did my home-made resistor bypass (as noted earlier in this thread) almost a month ago now. It has been working PERFECTLY since then. I have not had one problem with intermittent starting. Also, the security light does not ever come on now, except for the normal few seconds after starting.

I solved this problem for ninety-nine cents!

Cadillakin'98 · #21 02-03-2005, 12:24 AM

Bitchin'

RODDNTEX · #22 11-15-2005, 08:26 AM

I HAVE BEEN IN MOBILE ELECTRONICS SINCE 1982,AND THIS GM VATS/PASSLOCK IS A JOKE.WORST DESIGN EVER.
I HAVE A 2000 TAHOE THAT I HAVE A REMOTE START ON AND IT WORKS PERFECTLY,THE PROBLEM IVE HAD IS USING THE KEY,SOMETIMES IT WILL START SOMETIMES NOT.SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS WORK FOR GM DEALERSHIPS AND HAVE TOLD ME HORROR STORIES OF THESE SYSTEMS OVER THE PAST DECADE.ONE SAYS THEORETICALLY BYPASSING THE SIGNAL WIRE SHOULDNT WORK, THE COMPUTER REFERENCES VOLTAGE AND THE RESISTANCE SIGNAL?.I HAVE HAD THE GM QUICK FIX DONE AND THE WHOLE TRANSMITTER REPLACED AND STILL HAVE INTERMITTENT STARTING ISSUES,I JUST PERMANTLY BYPASSED MINE WITH A HARD RESISTOR (AND A TOGGLE SWITCH TO BYPASS MY BYPASS-IN CASE) SO WE WILL SEE HOW IT PANS OUT,ANYMORE WORD AND I WILL PASS IT ON....

Chevy-SS · #23 11-15-2005, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RODDNTEX

......I JUST PERMANTLY BYPASSED MINE WITH A HARD RESISTOR ..........

Hey, let us know if it works out for you. I have never had one problem since I did the permanent bypass trick.

Now, quit yellin' with the all caps............

jdeller · #24 03-21-2008, 09:22 AM

anyone know about this thread? I know its old but my truck just did this this am.

Chevy-SS · #25 03-21-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jdeller

anyone know about this thread? I know its old but my truck just did this this am.

I'm still here, lol. Haven't left in 2 years. It was getting kinda boring here.

What symptoms r u having?

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ponchonutty · #26 03-21-2008, 09:30 PM

Yep. I'm still around. Search my name and you'll find 100's of threads on it so read up.

woodbite · #27 03-25-2008, 06:39 PM

Chevy-ss. Thank your fix with the resistor is just what I'm looking for. You said, you just installed the resitor with no other parts. No relays or anthing else? My friends 98 chevy p/u is doing the same thing. Crank then cut right off. His fault though, I think. He beat the steering wheel to pieces trying to install a "prettier" one . He even cut the wires to the airbag with a knife while it was still hooked up

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Back to my question for ya. Did you check the resistance with the switch on or off or, where did you find the instructions to do it. Any help would be appreciated..
Thanks Steve...
Oh yeah almost forgot. He also removed all the warning bulbs from the back of the instrument cluster for some odd reason. So, I don't know about a security light..

Chevy-SS · #28 03-26-2008, 09:00 AM

Yes, I installed resistor only, nothing else. It was very easy to do. I just tried the web page that had the instructions, but the page is no longer up, dangit. I am searching my computer to see if I saved a copy of the page. If so, I will post it up for download.

I'll keep looking for the instructions.

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Chevy-SS · #29 03-26-2008, 09:06 AM

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http://www.passlock2.com/

Found some instructions! This is a very nice page. The top section is the one you want, I believe.

Good luck

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woodbite · #30 03-26-2008, 06:55 PM

Thanks SS. Figured out his problem last night.
He had pulled out the bulb for security light in the instrument panel. I replaced the bulb. Truck still would not crank but, the fuel pump was still running after it went immediatley dead. (Before the fuel pump would quit running). So i checked the fuses by the door again and he had removed one since the first night I looked at it. The fuse was for the guages. Replaced it. Still wouldn't crank. So I tried the deal were you leave the ign switch on for ten minutes.(4th try with that). It worked. ahhhhh
Just wanted to say thanks for the orignal post with out it I would have been lost.. THANKS
Quite a hair puller!

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