Direct Power System = crap?

[OffroadX]

Anyone else get queasy when it comes to this "Direct Power System" that AF is pimping? Anyone willing to risk the $15 restock fee (bet that nets 'em a profit already) plus $13 shipping plus return shipping to find out if it's actually not a joke?

Brent

[BLU CIVIC]

ask Igor if he brought it and if it works or to buy it and have it tested on his bronze beauty.....like a b4 and after dyno

[Toy Man]

I'm "from Missouri" on this this one.'

Sounds like snake oil.

Toy Man

[OffroadX]

Igor's comments:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=148021

[Toy Man]

I'm still from Missouri....

Hype and talk is cheap -- Show me...

Toy Man

[igor@af]

gentlemen,

just so you all know - there is now FULL money back guarantee, including shipping both ways.
So you can try it out totally risk free.

[911S_TARGA_RSR]

That Sounds like a much better offer igor

[igor@af]

I would love to see what it would do to a Porsche (although we're in the wrong forum here )

[evergreen]

offroadx's comments just about sum it up for me.

(quote)Yeah, no kidding. Looks to me like they'll turn a profit even on the $15 restock fee they charge the folks that are immune to the placebo effect. Anyone curious enough to try it is going to be out at least $35 after that and the $13 shipping plus return shipping. $35 is a lot to be out of pocket for something that doesn't even work...

With the additional ads you've added to the pages (the "beat parking tickets" one is a real classy one) and now this dubious product (with scads of profit to kick back to you it would seem) I'm really concerned with where this forum is headed. Seems to be after the lowest common denominator in the struggle to stay afloat.(quote)


all these damn adds on this site suck!!

[911S_TARGA_RSR]

I just ignore the ads. It is great that they don't have any pop ups.

[igor@af]

Originally Posted by evergreen

offroadx's comments just about sum it up for me.

(quote)Yeah, no kidding. Looks to me like they'll turn a profit even on the $15 restock fee they charge the folks that are immune to the placebo effect. Anyone curious enough to try it is going to be out at least $35 after that and the $13 shipping plus return shipping. $35 is a lot to be out of pocket for something that doesn't even work...

With the additional ads you've added to the pages (the "beat parking tickets" one is a real classy one) and now this dubious product (with scads of profit to kick back to you it would seem) I'm really concerned with where this forum is headed. Seems to be after the lowest common denominator in the struggle to stay afloat.(quote)


all these damn adds on this site suck!!

But... his comments are invalid as you can see that the money back guarantee has been revised to refund you 100% of the cost including shipping both ways.

And as for the 'struggle to stay afloat' - didn't know that - I guess I should listen more to the members to find out what financial situation AF is really in

[Toy Man]

Igor:

Here is the crux of my problem with the product:

I am an old fart and have seen a LOT of scams.

The web page for this product sounds just like
every scam I have ever seen. Worse actually.
A page full of total gobblydook does NOT inspire
confidence.

Your experience may be positive but until I hear VERY
postive results from people that I have some confidence in,
I remain a sceptic.

Send evaluations units to Brent (offroadX) or Ian Firth.
If they report postive results, THEN I (and a lot of other
Xterra owners) will consider purchasing the product.

Toy Man - still a sceptic.

[Schludwiller]

Originally Posted by Toy Man

until I hear VERY
postive results from people that I have some confidence in,
I remain a sceptic.

What am I? Milk Toast? Change your own damn oil from now on old man!!

[igor@af]

at Ian

Toy Man - why do you want to hear Ian or Brent's experience with the DPS before purchasing it when you yourself can do exactly the same thing? Is a 100% money back guarantee including shipping charges both ways not good enough somehow?

[warmonger]

Originally Posted by igor@af

at Ian

Toy Man - why do you want to hear Ian or Brent's experience with the DPS before purchasing it when you yourself can do exactly the same thing? Is a 100% money back guarantee including shipping charges both ways not good enough somehow?

OK Igor, I have become something of an expert on sham operations being from Florida and spending damn near the whole winter in NY. Both of these are two of the biggest areas of sham operations in the world next to crappo third world countries like Nigeria. Here is my take, and you can take offense to this if you want, but I have seen more busts over this than Carter has peanuts. I don't give a flying flip if it is 100% money back guaranteed. You know why? It is only as good as the company making the offer. I don't have a great deal of faith in the company based on this. I always ask how long will the company last if they have to refund a bunch of money and who's rear will one have to kiss to get it back? I smell a class-action lawsuit here. Sorry dude, I just have seen WAY too much of this stuff working for a car dealer for a living. Before I quit the dealership I worked for, we got embroiled in a lawsuit over a "product". I made jokes with the sales dept when I was installing this "product" that I was aiding and abetting. Little did I know how true that was. We wound up losing a major class-action lawsuit that cost big bucks. I agree with Toyman and OffroadX, it smells like a sham to me. Sorry.