Changing timing belt

neogenesis · #1 10-01-2006, 01:00 PM

I have a Honda Passport 98 and was wondering is their a guide to change the timing belt? I haven't really looked at the engine becuase it's my dad's so I don't know how much room I have to work with. Would I have to remove the fan or radiator to access the crank pulley?

I know I have to mark the timing with the belt on and such, but was wondering if there was something else to note about these engines?

Thanks

trooperbc · #2 10-01-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by neogenesis

I have a Honda Passport 98 and was wondering is their a guide to change the timing belt? I haven't really looked at the engine becuase it's my dad's so I don't know how much room I have to work with. Would I have to remove the fan or radiator to access the crank pulley?

Thanks

yes you need to remove the fan and protect the radiator.

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I know I have to mark the timing with the belt on and such, but was wondering if there was something else to note about these engines?

there's a bunch. marking the timing belt won't help, because you are chaning it. but you do need to know how to set the timing (i.e. the camshafts and crank), etc.

normally, on these engines the following are done at the same time
*timing belt
*timing belt tensioner (it's the thing that goes the most)
*water pump (it's behind the timing belt, so now's the time to do it)
*possible timing belt pulley if indicated (probably not)
*accessory (external) belts or serpentine belt, whichever you have

depending on your prior experience you may be able to do this with help from here and/or the other forums, but i urge you to get some expert help in the factory manuals and updates available at www.helminc.com expensive and very good.

and/or subscribe to alldata for $25 the first year; basically the factory manuals online plus some extra stuff www.alldata.com

hope that's a start...

btw, how many miles? any indications of tb problems?

hth

//bc

2000Frontera · #3 10-01-2006, 09:07 PM

Guys,

an extract from a forum I have kept in readiness to do mine. This may help.
I also have two great photos of the front of the engine stripped but don't know how to post these. Maybe someone can help me there.

Wayne.
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I just did the timing belt on my 1999 Rodeo last weekend. It's an all day job or more if it's your first time. Here's what I did.

1. Remove the drive belt
2. Remove the 3 fan mount bolts up against the engine. you don't have to take the fan apart.
3.Removed the radator/hoses for more room but not neccesary. I ended up replaceing the hoses.
4. Remove the drive belt idler pulley.
5. Remove the drive belt tensioner to be able to remove the passenger side timing cover. 2 bolts, one just above it the other an allan head bolt through the center of it.
6. You might be able to remove the drivers side timing cover without moving the power steering pump. If not then you can remove 3 bolts accessed through holes in its pulley. I then pried it to the side about 1/2" and the cover comes off easily.
7. I have a manual transmission so when removing the crank pulley I just put the vehicle in gear and used a 3ft. cheater on my breaker bar. Otherwise just hit the starter to break the bolt loose. The pulley easily pulled off by hand.
8. I replaced the water pump, tensioner, tensioner pulley, timing idler pulley, timing belt.
9. When installing the timing belt I found it easier to attach the belt at the cam pulley first and the crank last. use "binder clips" or small wood working clamps to hold the belt on each pulley. Oh I didn't need to remove the spark plugs to rotate the crank into position. Just move slowly with occasional pauses to release the pressure.
Another thing to remember is that when putting the water pump back on if your putting a new one in is the top right bolt hole stays empty until you put the fan mount back on. Also one of the bolts has to have thread locker on it to seal.
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I'm in the middle of this, now, on my 2001 4WD V6. Everything Ab6cr says is dead on . I would add, though . . . be sure to have all parts you think you may need, in hand before starting. Upon disassembly, I found my idler pulley to be a bit rattley, so I've had to leave the truck torn apart for a week now, waiting on a new idler.

Here are some images to inspire you:

This is with everything removed and the belt ready to come off. I didn't have to remove the power steering pump; remove the three mounting bolts and lever it out of the way. Also, the radiator can stay in place, though, don't damage it; I used an impact to remove the crankshaft pulley bolt and had plenty of clearance with the radiator installed.

trooperbc · #4 10-01-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2000Frontera

...I also have two great photos of the front of the engine stripped but don't know how to post these. Maybe someone can help me there.

...

go to http://photobucket.com/
sign up, follow their directions to download photo there. it's free.
then when you want to post a photo here, click the "mountain-sun-yellow sky" icon above the posting text box. then copy the URL for the photo on photobucket and paste in the insert image dialog box here.

it's easier to do than write about it.

hth

//bc

neogenesis · #5 10-01-2006, 11:18 PM

The car is running near 115k on the oringinal belt and I believe the tensioner is going bad. So I would like to take care of all of these before they actually fail. Would parts from a auto store such as AutoZone be good enough or will dealer parts be needed?

What's the average price for everything?

Thanks

trooperbc · #6 10-02-2006, 12:51 AM

dealer only. best bet really is st. charles isuzu a dealer in missouri who ships free, gives 15% 'internet discount' and has excellent knowlegeable parts guy in Merlin, ask for him

or JLEMOND who has lots of isuzu oem parts at excellent prices i've read and he is extremely knowlegeable and helpful on all things isuzu.

look in the Amigo-2k's FAQ for the contact info

sounds like you want to do this sooner than later

hth

//bc

2000Frontera · #7 10-02-2006, 01:46 AM

Photos:

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...deotiming2.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...deotiming1.jpg

One of my Australian (Rodeo 4WD) Frontera while I'm here :
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...2/DSCF0030.jpg

Cheers,
Wayne

trooperbc · #8 10-03-2006, 01:55 AM

OR...like this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000Frontera

Photos:

One of my Australian (Rodeo 4WD) Frontera while I'm here :

Cheers,
Wayne

nice pix, thanks,

//bc

amigo-2k · #9 10-03-2006, 10:17 AM

I'll add this to the FAQ's. Maybe 2eye will put his 2 cents in to...

2eyefishclaw · #10 10-03-2006, 08:35 PM

I have tried and am exhausted from trying to get a $#%@!&^ picture up in here .
be sure to line everything up before removing the t-belt
DO NOT rotate camshafts after belt has been removed or you will have major work to do
dont sweat it easy job I do it in 15-20 minutes
you should be able to get it in under 4 hrs never having done it before

surferfletch · #11 10-03-2006, 09:24 PM

No reason mark and match wouldn't work, too. Looks very close to the '97 setup as far as the belt, tensioners, and pulley goes.

amigo-2k · #12 10-03-2006, 09:30 PM

email me photos and I'll post them.

[email protected]

2eyefishclaw · #13 10-05-2006, 12:10 AM

jimwelsh · #14 10-12-2006, 03:14 PM

Hello. Nice ride. In the first picture, it shows both the TENSIONER PULLEY and the TENSIONER ADJUSTER. In the second picture, it shows just the TENSIONER PULLEY, and it looks like the TENSIONER ADJUSTER has been removed. My question is, what is the one that starts making noise when it is getting to go south?

jimwelsh · #15 10-12-2006, 03:17 PM

Hello. Nice ride. In the first picture, it shows both the TENSIONER PULLEY and the TENSIONER ADJUSTER. In the second picture, it shows just the TENSIONER PULLEY, and it looks like the TENSIONER ADJUSTER has been removed. My question is, what is the one that starts making the noise when it is getting ready to go south?

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