E85?

[BlenderWizard]

Well, I just found out about this, and it sounds really good. No drawbacks at all, really. Here is an exerpt from the article:

Thousands of late-model Ford, General Motors and Chrysler vehicles, including the popular Ford Explorer and Chevrolet Silverado, could be using E85 if it was available.

So, are all late model Silverados FFV's?

Here is the whole article:
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...ethanol30.html

[3wbdriver]

Apparently, it will only work in certain vehicles........... Worse luck.


http://e85fuel.com/information/general_motors.htm

[TXAGG05]

Would the select vehicles be those with the "Flex-fuel" motor?

[gremlin96]

dont fall for the hipe. it takes more e85 to drive that truck than strate fuel.

unless thay start selling it at a realy good discount your going to end up paying more for fuel.

While ethanol appears to have considerable potential for use as an octane enhancer in gasoline, its production costs are so high that gasoline prices would have to be approximately twice the 1988 level for alcohol to be an economically attractive primary fuel source. This picture could change if very large tax incentives for alcohol production again became a reality.http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/p...90/v1-260.html

for every mpg you get from strate fuel it takes 1.5 times in e85 to get the same. if you could pump the gas from the station for reguler fuel at 2 bucks a gallon. to go the same distance with e85 you would need 3 bucks worth.

there is a system that will get you there and reduse the amount of trash around the world. http://www.changingworldtech.com/
you better move fast tho. the greens are baning the tech, and the motors that run on it.

[jdjim]

can any vehicle run on e85? can one be converted? $2.19 for regular vrs $1.50 for e85. would be worth the money to convert.

[gremlin96]

Originally Posted by jdjim

can any vehicle run on e85? can one be converted? $2.19 for regular vrs $1.50 for e85. would be worth the money to convert.

you can do it, but is it worth it.

Watch a starving vegan eat a bowl of cocktail wienies, and you'll get an idea of how easy it is to make a gas-powered truck run on E85. Ethanol has an octane rating of 105, but that's where the good news ends. It also has a lower vapor pressure than gasoline, and a higher heat of vaporization, which means it doesn't mix as well with air when the engine is cold. That can increase emissions on engine startup. E85 also has a lower energy density than gasoline. That means you need to use more of it — typically 15 to 20 percent more — to extract similar power from the engine
http://www.engr.unl.edu/~ethanol/article9.htm.
http://motortrend.com/features/consu...rid/index.html

[tbrdlvr88]

Originally Posted by gremlin96

you can do it, but is it worth it.

Watch a starving vegan eat a bowl of cocktail wienies, and you'll get an idea of how easy it is to make a gas-powered truck run on E85. Ethanol has an octane rating of 105, but that's where the good news ends. It also has a lower vapor pressure than gasoline, and a higher heat of vaporization, which means it doesn't mix as well with air when the engine is cold. That can increase emissions on engine startup. E85 also has a lower energy density than gasoline. That means you need to use more of it — typically 15 to 20 percent more — to extract similar power from the engine
http://www.engr.unl.edu/~ethanol/article9.htm.
http://motortrend.com/features/consu...rid/index.html

Show me a liquid fuel that does vaporize well when cold. Increasing emissions on start up is nothing. Vehicles have been tested at up to 70% fewer emissions once warmed up. Gasoline itself also will have drastically higher emissions on a cold engine. It's the nature of an internal combustion engine. Most of the vehicles that have been converted to flexfuel are seeing a 5-15% decrease in fuel mileage with an average of 20-25% lower fuel cost. Looks like a net savings to me. I'm running a kit from E85andyou.com and love it. Easy to install and performs beautiful.

[Sonny01]

If you look at the fuel cap you can tell if an engine is flex fuel and will run E85.

[tbuckit1]

The white sticker under the hood with the engine info on it will say if the vehicle is E85 compatable or not.

I'm not sold on E85. If it weren't for the government subsidizing E85 production, we wouldn't be able to afford to burn it. E85 costs a whole lot more to produce than what it sells for at the pump.

And if you are looking at saving money, it's about a break even proposition between buring E85 and straight unleaded. Yes, it's cheaper, but it takes more to achieve the same result.

My 2 cents,

T

[mbumgua]

If you want to lose power and mileage---Go ahead and buy e85. Gas 140,000 BTU's per gallon. E85 130,000 BTU's per gallon. No difference in price at pump around here.