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Old 02-07-2003, 04:16 PM   #1
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A classic example of how U.S. propaganda works

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Presented as a small public service: an artist's conception of the news photograph they didn't want you to see tomorrow.


The "Guernica" work by Pablo Picasso at the entrance of the Security Council of the United Nations has been covered with a curtain. The reason for covering this work is that this is the place where diplomats make statements to the press and have this work as the background. The Picasso work features the horrors of war. On January 27 a large blue curtain was placed to cover the work.

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A diplomat stated that it would not be an appropriate background if the ambassador of the United States at the U.N. John Negroponte, or Powell, talk about war surrounded with women, children and animals shouting with horror and showing the suffering of the bombings.

There is something obscene about the U.S."defence"spokesman making war speeches from the world's foremost peacekeeping mission.If the U.S. wants to promote the war,the foyer of the U.N. is a grossly inaproppriate place from which to do so.

The U.S.has asked the U.N.repeatedly for support to legitimise its grabbing of Iraq,and the U.N. has given the matter every consideration possible,including sending in inspectors in an attempt to verify the U.S. claims.Having found insufficient evidence to warrant a full-scale peacekeeping mission,the U.N.has quite properly told the U.S. to go away and come up with something a bit more convincing,but the U.S. prefers to spend its time cajoling and bribing individual nations in the hope of getting legitimacy for its land grab.

If the U.S. military intelligence can't come up with compelling evidence there's no reason to go to war.
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Very true, and now France is in the spotlight, for their non compliance with the US in this matter.

I loved one headline I saw online at CNN... "FRANCE REJECTS NEW UN RESOLUTION!" That, of course, refers to France saying there is no need for a new security council resolution, that the US and Britain want to push through. However, it SOUNDS like there is already a new resolution, and that France refuses to recognize it.

France is no longer considered a US ally.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breakin...1831-1626r.htm
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Very true, and now France is in the spotlight, for their non compliance with the US in this matter.

France is no longer considered a US ally.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breakin...1831-1626r.htm
France and Germany have long-term oil contracts with Iraq and are merely trying to protect their oil pipeline.
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France and Germany have long-term oil contracts with Iraq and are merely trying to protect their oil pipeline.
Make your mind up,you have asserted in other threads that this conflict is not about oil.Clearly,France and Germany think it is.They have very well-founded doubts as to their access to oil if the country is invaded by the U.S. Guess who would be getting it all?
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I think he means to imply the Noble Americans are going to march in and liberate those oppressed civilians, rid the world of the grave threat that Saddam Hussein poses, and they haven't even given thought to the vast oil fields. Quite unlike those socialist Europeans, who just want to protect their own interests so they can further propagate their communist agendas?

Am I wrong, Murco? Please tell me I'm wrong. :o
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I think he means to imply the Noble Americans are going to march in and liberate those oppressed civilians, rid the world of the grave threat that Saddam Hussein poses, and they haven't even given thought to the vast oil fields. Am I wrong, Murco? Please tell me I'm wrong. :o
Yes, liberate the civilians
Yes, he is a threat to the US and Arabs
What! They have oil??!!
Hmmm, now that would be horrible if there were western-controlled oil, wouldn't it? OPEC may be out of business? No more oil embargos? No more money being funnelled by some to fund terrorists? BIG LOSS!!

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Unlike those socialist Europeans, who just want to protect their own interests so they can further propagate their communist agendas?
Communists are much different than socialists... Even us intellectually lazy Americans know that!!

We all have our agendas, don't we?
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That's about what I expected to hear.

You don't think that Israel poses a greater threat to the Arabs and the US? Even after they stole the US nuclear program and sold it to the Russians and the Chinese?
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You don't think that Israel poses a greater threat to the Arabs and the US? Even after they stole the US nuclear program and sold it to the Russians and the Chinese?
Lets see if I can rephrase your logic.....

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Actually, I would say my logic is quite sound.

You have a country who in the past, has invaded several neighbours without provocation, annexed their land, and forced the residents out so they can live in refugee camps, and then built settlements on the land. A country which has stolen the most important documents the US has, and sold them to the avowed enemies of the US, without provocation bombed and strafed a US cargo/intelligence ship repeatedly (USS Liberty, 1967), has weapons of mass destruction that make Iraq at the height of their alliance with the US look like a child with a BB gun in comparison, and is ruled by a party which has a healthy hatred of the hundreds of millions of Arabs who surround them?

Of course compare this to a nation decimated by a decade of unjust sanctions, regular bombings to destroy their infrastructure, and a lack of potable water for 80% of the population. Then again, Iraq has oil!
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Here is an excellent example of how US propaganda works, even overseas. An anonymous US source makes many unfounded allegations, and only once states there is absolutely no evidence to support any of these outlandish claims. However, these stories are repeated so many times, they begin to stick in your head, and you accept them.

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The CIA is investigating the possibility that a top al-Qaeda operative may have been involved in a plot to use ricin to poison food meant for British troops, a US government source disclosed late today.

"That is being looked at," said the source, who insisted on maintaining anonymity. "He may have had contacts; some links with people who were involved. That's being looked at as a possibility."

Traces of ricin - a poison that is produced by processing castor beans - were found during a police raid on a London apartment on January 5.

Six people, mostly of North African descent, are being held in Britain in connection with the case.

The discovery, as well as the arrests, have sparked fears of a biological terrorist attack on British soil - concerns reinforced by subsequent reports that one of the detainees worked for a catering company and had been in contact with employees of at least one British military base.

Ricin, which has no known antidote, is believed to be one of the most lethal of existing toxins, according to US medical experts. One gram of it is said to be enough to kill up to 36,000 people.

The CIA probe is focused on Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi, a one-legged, 36-year-old associate of Osama bin Laden of Palestinian descent, who fought in Afghanistan alongside the suspected mastermind of the September 11 attacks, according to the source.

He is known to US intelligence officials as one of al-Qaeda's top experts in chemical and biological warfare and remains on the run.

Wounded in Afghanistan, al-Zarqawi managed to cross the border into Iran and subsequently Iraq, where doctors healed his wounds, the source said.

He was sighted last summer at a terrorist camp in South Lebanon, where he took part in a meeting of Islamic militants, including representatives of Iranian-controlled Hizbollah, which frequently shells northern Israeli towns, according to the source.

Al-Zarqawi is also believed to have travelled to a tiny enclave in Kurdish northern Iraq, which is controlled by bin Laden associates that call themselves Ansar al-Islam.

Yesterday, NBC News broadcast US satellite pictures of an Ansar al-Islam terrorism training camp, which includes a building identified by US intelligence experts as a biological and chemical weapons factory.

The factory is used to produce ricin and cyanide so deadly that one local villager was accidentally killed during the experiments, according to NBC News.

But the US government source cautioned that so far, US intelligence has found no evidence that the ricin discovered in London had come from Iraq or that al-Zarqawi helped arrange its delivery, although it would not dismiss such a possibility.
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