what the best way to go?

[quackmandude]

ok guys i scored a great job making about 10 bucks an hr, now i finally have money to blow on my ride. i have an 94 pearl whit sl, all it has is a full exaust setip (magnaflow/dual), downpipe etc, intake kit, 17in black wheels with nice z rated rubber on em. now what? i want tt (duh right). but showuld i just save up and sell mine, and get a vr4. or stick with fwd and buy a tt engine? any pros and cons, awd is great i no, bt whats the weight difference on that? and is maintanece a bitch on awd cars, sry im a noob to awd, never owned one or even worked on one. aw steerings great to. well anyways, i need yalls help in my desicion. i live in sout texas so if anyones selling maybe in houston or sa id be interested, thanks.

[Linebckr49]

i didn't know you're in TX! i'm in Dallas. you should definitely come to the 5th Annual TX 3S Gathering, held in Dallas August 17-19. you could ride in a few VR4s and maybe a few FWD TT cars. best way to learn is to be around what you're interested in.

i won't say either way whether you should get a VR4 or do the TT conversion. it all depends on what you want. pros and cons for both. but the maintenance on a VR4 is definitely more involved, more expensive, and more of a pain in the ass....and this is coming from a guy (me) who has owned an NA for 4 years, but i've also done a LOT of work on VR4s.

if you decided to get a VR4, the hardest part will be finding one that has been maintained well, and then that car will cost a pretty penny. you can find a cheap one, but be prepared to spend $1k up front on maintenance/repairs. if you do the work yourself, you could save a lot of money, otherwise you better start saving.

hopefully Igovert500, YoungVR4, and some other VR4 owners will chime in.

[quackmandude]

thanks man, yea i do all work on my car my self, whats the weight difference by any chance?

[quackmandude]

do i need to be a 3si member to cruise and put my car in the show and what not. or can i just show up and be like.....hey.

[Linebckr49]

you can just show up and cruise. however, it would be helpful if you did sign up, or at least contact the guy in charge (DuTTch). 3Si now accepts free web email addresses, so signing up on 3Si should be easy.

[quackmandude]

awesome man thanks, ill probably be there.

[AutostradaVR4]

kickass. another possible drinkin buddy in TX

not tryin to get OT, but im moving near san antonio is a couple months. gotta make some friends.

back on topic. If your mechanically enclined and plan on doing all the work yourself, hell, just do the TT conversion. nothin wrong with a little torque steer lol. I dont know if your ATX or MTX, but i guess, if i remember what hotshot said, ATX will need a few add-ons to deal with the power.

If your not mechanically enclined and dont wanna be bothered to do the work, id prolly steer you away from a VR4 anyways...they are definitely higher mainenence...but i guess thats the price you pay for boost.

[quackmandude]

ok then tt conveersion it is, whats a good place to get the motor? any recommended sites?

[Linebckr49]

Originally Posted by quackmandude

ok then tt conveersion it is, whats a good place to get the motor? any recommended sites?

oh boy.

well see, you don't HAVE to get a TT motor. the point of the TT CONVERSION is to slap on some turbos and covert your NA motor to TT. the stock turbo setup and just about everything from a VR4/RT-TT wil fit onto the NA engines.

the stock TT motors have an 8:1 compression ratio within the combustion chamber. the stock NA motors have a 10:1 CR. with the stock 9B turbos on your 10:1 NA motor, the turbos will be fully spooled at about 3k rpms, compared to the TT motors which spool later in the rpm band.

however, with a 10:1 turbo engine, there is a very fine line for tuning. with the 8:1 CR, there is more leeway for tuning.

now time for you to do a search.

check out www.bobthegreat.com for some nice pictures on the TT conversion.
direct link for the TT conv stuff: http://www.bobthegreat.com/pages/myc...rbo/index.html

[AutostradaVR4]

yea, definitely not worth it to do a whole engine swap IMO. I recall someone not long ago getting all the conversion stuff for like 1200 bucks. Granted, it was higher mileage stuff, but a TT conv none the less.

good luck with it and keep us updated on your progress man.

[quackmandude]

thanks guys, sry i took so long, i lost the thread and just fighured out out to lok at past ones on my user cp, lol lammme. ok so tt CONVERSION. tuning shouldnt be a problem, i got a friends whos a genius at tuning. hmm. one question, ive heard that the stock engines has reliability issues with turbos, i dont wanna blow my engine or anything, is this tru or a hunk of mess? ima strt looking up parts right now, lol. get back asap and i will to, PEACE!