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14b performance....
Hey guys, my plans have changed a little, sadly. Basicly, I was gonna go all out and do the evo3 16g, 190, 550's, and DSMlink, but my dad told me if I ordered the turbo, he'd kick me out of the house lol. So, sadly none of that will happen any time soon.
Now, one of the people in my dsm club just upgraded his turbo and is selling his 14b. My question is what is the max boost and power I can run/expect out of bolting the 14b up with a stock 2g fuel system? Would it be worth the hassle to put it in even with a stock fuel system? On a side note, I did just purchase some new wheels, since my front right rim was bent somehow - prolly from previous owner, and wobbled a little on the highway. So, stay tuned for some pics in the next week
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![]() 2006 Wicked White Evo IX GSR 323 awhp / 311 tq. (Dynojet) http://www.projectevoix.com http://www.4WStuning.com 99 RS < 98 GSX < 06 EVO
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Re: 14b performance....
14b is pretty, strong compared to when i had a t-25. only if your going to do the work yourself, if your going to pay someone to put it on, i dont think it is worth it. your stock fuel system can support it also.
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-1997 Eclipse Spyder GST |Stock| -1990 Eclipse GSX |ACL Main & Rod Race Bearings|Balance Shafts Removed|ARP Head Studs|Cometic HG|FP 20g TDO6H|EPROM Chipped (stutter box 5k, fuel comp.)|PTE 680cc inj.|Walbro 255 HP Fuel Pump|Autoteq FPR|SAFC 2|FMIC|2g MAF|Dejon Tool Hard Pipe|Greddy Type S|MBC at 17PSI|Ported 2g Exhaust Manifold|02 Housing w/ Tial 38mm WG|Full 3inch Exhaust w/ Y-pipe Cutout|Fidanza Flywheel|ACT 2100|4 Bolt LSD Rear|Poly Mounts|KYB AGX Suspension|Roll Bar| |
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Re: 14b performance....
My dad dont even know, what turbo is, any way what side wheel did you get ? Im still debate between 17 or 18, I have 18 on my 2 preview N/T, and I think it heavy for that car.
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Re: 14b performance....
I got some 17x7's, so it will fit the tires I'm running now. As for weight, they are only 18lbs each, against the 2g gsx wheels weighing in at 25lbs each. I think they are gonna look real nice, and different. Haven't really seen any cars around me with bronze wheels.
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![]() 2006 Wicked White Evo IX GSR 323 awhp / 311 tq. (Dynojet) http://www.projectevoix.com http://www.4WStuning.com 99 RS < 98 GSX < 06 EVO
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Re: 14b performance....
when i had my 14b i was runing 18 lbs daily drivin and i ran low 12s with it. you already have an upgraded intercooler so you should be good to go in many ways.
you dont need bigger injectors for a while unless u are pushing about 350 hp just upgrade your fuel pump and your good to go
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1992 eagle talon tsi awd xtd stage 3 six puck/apexi 3' downpipe and exhaust/ngk plugs/taylor thunderbolt wires/manual boost controller set at 20psi/walbro 255 with rewire/autometer boost gauge/turbo xs rfl blow off valve/arp headstuds/ to4b vtrim turbo/dnp tubular manifold with o2 housing and tial 38mm wastegate/eagle rods/ross pistons/acl bearings/arp rod bolts/arp main studs/aeromotive fuel pressure regulator and all stainless lines/aem fuel rail/slowboy street front mount kit |
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Re: 14b performance....
My buddy just hit 11.9 on his 14b. Before he got bigger injectors and afc, he was hitting 12's all day with the 450's(1g car).
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--the Cruiser-->97 Spyder GST 5sp ---3 inch exhaust, boost/vac gauge, mbc, greddy turbo timer, greddy fmic, greddy type S BOV, 17in wheels --the DD-->99 ACURA 3.2 TL --Sold 92TSi AWD, 6-bolt, auto, evo 3 gt turbo with supporting mods |
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Re: 14b performance....
A 14b would be a pretty nice upgrade over the t25. It has alot more top end then the t25 and wont fall on its face past 5k.
Oh yeah, those are some pretty sick ass rims! Post some pics when you get them on. |
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Re: 14b performance....
T25 maxes out around 22 lbs/min, 14b will do exactly 30 lbs. For a car with a typical setup it will hold 25 psi to redline on race gas. Pump gas, run whatever you can get away with without knock. Hopefully you still plan to go for DSMlink.
I ran mid 12s on a 14b on a sidemount and a full weight 2g. A race prepped 1g went mid 11s locally. Another guy ("project goodwill," I believe he has a website, google it) is in the 10s. No way the average Joe can expect to repeat those kind of numbers, but mid or low 12s is attainable with the right setup, good tuning, and even better driving. I just broke into the 12s on pump gas IIRC. The SMIC was a real show stopper.
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Kevin Jewer RWD Talon - 7.92 at 180 Mightymax - 10.7 at 125 |
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Re: 14b performance....
Ya, I know the 14b is a much better turbo, I was just asking how far could I go with it on a stock fuel system. I decided not to get it though. Thanks for the replies.
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![]() 2006 Wicked White Evo IX GSR 323 awhp / 311 tq. (Dynojet) http://www.projectevoix.com http://www.4WStuning.com 99 RS < 98 GSX < 06 EVO
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Re: 14b performance....
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--the Cruiser-->97 Spyder GST 5sp ---3 inch exhaust, boost/vac gauge, mbc, greddy turbo timer, greddy fmic, greddy type S BOV, 17in wheels --the DD-->99 ACURA 3.2 TL --Sold 92TSi AWD, 6-bolt, auto, evo 3 gt turbo with supporting mods |
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Re: 14b performance....
I want to upgrade my t-25 to a bigger turbo. my goals are about 300whp give or take. would the 14b be good for me? thanks
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1997 Eclipse GS-T Performance modification:-evo3 16g-K&N Intake-HKS SSQV b.o.v vented-2.5'' Dejon tool blow thru upper and lower-Dejon large smic-GM MAF-MAF Translator-HKS 3" Carbon Fiber Titanium TBE-stock fuel rail-Walbro 190 fuel pump-PE 650cc injectors-Accel Thundersport wires-NGK series 7 spark plugs-1g intake mani/head- Interior Modification:-Autometer Boost Gauge http://www.cardomain.com/id/xTeamRedLine23x |
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Re: 14b performance....
one more thing can someone tell me if the oil lines will fit on the 14b? the 14b is water and oil cooled right? thanks
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1997 Eclipse GS-T Performance modification:-evo3 16g-K&N Intake-HKS SSQV b.o.v vented-2.5'' Dejon tool blow thru upper and lower-Dejon large smic-GM MAF-MAF Translator-HKS 3" Carbon Fiber Titanium TBE-stock fuel rail-Walbro 190 fuel pump-PE 650cc injectors-Accel Thundersport wires-NGK series 7 spark plugs-1g intake mani/head- Interior Modification:-Autometer Boost Gauge http://www.cardomain.com/id/xTeamRedLine23x |
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Re: 14b performance....
The 14b can do about 300 to the wheels max on a very well setup and tuned car, on race gas.
The oil feed line is different. The drain line is different, but the stocker can be modified. The water lines can be swapped and bent slightly. It's the same exact install as a 16g. Which works out well if you decide to do a EVO3 16g later on, spreads out the total cost a bit. The stock 2g pump will suffice if rewired, and the injectors are enough as well. The 1g pump won't be enough, but the 450s at the lower base pressure are still ok.
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Kevin Jewer RWD Talon - 7.92 at 180 Mightymax - 10.7 at 125 |
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Re: 14b performance....
thanks
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1997 Eclipse GS-T Performance modification:-evo3 16g-K&N Intake-HKS SSQV b.o.v vented-2.5'' Dejon tool blow thru upper and lower-Dejon large smic-GM MAF-MAF Translator-HKS 3" Carbon Fiber Titanium TBE-stock fuel rail-Walbro 190 fuel pump-PE 650cc injectors-Accel Thundersport wires-NGK series 7 spark plugs-1g intake mani/head- Interior Modification:-Autometer Boost Gauge http://www.cardomain.com/id/xTeamRedLine23x |
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Re: 14b performance....
is this 14b a good deal?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWN:IT&ih=005
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1997 Eclipse GS-T Performance modification:-evo3 16g-K&N Intake-HKS SSQV b.o.v vented-2.5'' Dejon tool blow thru upper and lower-Dejon large smic-GM MAF-MAF Translator-HKS 3" Carbon Fiber Titanium TBE-stock fuel rail-Walbro 190 fuel pump-PE 650cc injectors-Accel Thundersport wires-NGK series 7 spark plugs-1g intake mani/head- Interior Modification:-Autometer Boost Gauge http://www.cardomain.com/id/xTeamRedLine23x Last edited by TeamRedLine23; 07-25-2006 at 12:24 AM. |
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