Painting Porsche Carrera GT

[opel56]

For my first post I will be asking for some help! I want to paint the GT in yellow just like the real car! Tamiya recommends that I use paint colour 'Crome Yellow'. Can anyone take me through the basic process of painting a car well. I know that first I'm going to have to lay down a primer coat. I've chosed a white primer as it will make the paint 'glow'. Do I need to lay down a darker colour first? Something like 'Camel Yelow"? Will the paint seem shiny after you spary several coast of clear on?

Thanks for your time and hope to enjoy my saty at AF,
George

[MPWR]

Hi George, welcome to AF.

There's alot of good painting info in the How-to's and FAQ's here. Tamiya Chrome yellow is probably pretty close to Fayance Gelb- but if you want an exact match, try CobraColors. They have the exact color, but you'll have to use an airbrush.

You will definately want to spray the chrome yellow over white primer. You can spray grey primer first (it's easier to correct flaws on the body with) and cover it with white, or just use white. Then just paint it with the chrome yellow.

Take a look at the FAQ's, and if you still have questions, feel free to ask.

[opel56]

Originally Posted by MPWR

Hi George, welcome to AF.

There's alot of good painting info in the How-to's and FAQ's here. Tamiya Chrome yellow is probably pretty close to Fayance Gelb- but if you want an exact match, try CobraColors. They have the exact color, but you'll have to use an airbrush.

You will definately want to spray the chrome yellow over white primer. You can spray grey primer first (it's easier to correct flaws on the body with) and cover it with white, or just use white. Then just paint it with the chrome yellow.

Take a look at the FAQ's, and if you still have questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks for your help! I haven't bought the kit but I will in the near future. For now I'm just doing ym homework and research.

It's my first kit ever! I know that it will be a stunner, I'm going to put my heart and soul into it!

[opel56]

Also, I'm going to be buying primers and paints from best1hobby.com. The yellow comes in 100mL cans, do you think 2 cans are enough to paint the Carrera GT body? Also, will one can of white primer and grey primer suffice for this endeavor? Just trying to sum up a total price so I have an idea of how much the total would be!

Thanks for everything,
George

[MPWR]

Well, congradulations for taking the plunge and trying building. May it bring you many years of enjoyment.

For your first build though, I wold recommend something other than the Carrera GT. It is an excellent kit, but it is full engine and more complicated than a first kit needs to be. If you like Porsches, I strongly recommend one of these other Tamiya Porsches-

the GT3


Boxter


or 911 Turbo.


All are terrific kits, but are curbside (engineless), which makes them a much better option for a first build. The 911 Turbo is an especially good beginner kit. It has a fully detailed body and interior, but it is a snaploc (glueless) kit, which further simplifies it's assembly. (They are also all a good bit cheaper than the Carrera GT!) Hobbylinc seems to have them all on sale, but they can be found at any number of online and local retailers.

For any of these kits, you can build them up very well with one spray can of body color and one spray can of semi gloss black (especailly if you're going to do a black interior), plus a couple of colors for brushpainting if you like. You will also need one can of grey primer, and/or a can of white if you plan to use a light color like white, yellow or red. Grey primer is easier to work with, but a basecoat of white primer is necessary for the light colors.

Tamiya spray laquers are an excellent product, and more than likely will look terrific just sprayed on, without clearcoat or polishing. Tamiya aslo has a tutorial on usuing their paint here. It's more info than you really need, but theres some good stuff in it- especially the bit about heating cans in warm water before painting.

Good luck, and if you have more questions feel free to ask.

[racer917]

Hi opel56,
Actually 1 can of yellow should be more than enough and 1 can of white primer, you don't need gray, should last several car bodies.

[opel56]

Originally Posted by MPWR

Well, congradulations for taking the plunge and trying building. May it bring you many years of enjoyment.

For your first build though, I wold recommend something other than the Carrera GT. It is an excellent kit, but it is full engine and more complicated than a first kit needs to be. If you like Porsches, I strongly recommend one of these other Tamiya Porsches-

the GT3


Boxter


or 911 Turbo.


All are terrific kits, but are curbside (engineless), which makes them a much better option for a first build. The 911 Turbo is an especially good beginner kit. It has a fully detailed body and interior, but it is a snaploc (glueless) kit, which further simplifies it's assembly. (They are also all a good bit cheaper than the Carrera GT!) Hobbylinc seems to have them all on sale, but they can be found at any number of online and local retailers.

For any of these kits, you can build them up very well with one spray can of body color and one spray can of semi gloss black (especailly if you're going to do a black interior), plus a couple of colors for brushpainting if you like. You will also need one can of grey primer, and/or a can of white if you plan to use a light color like white, yellow or red. Grey primer is easier to work with, but a basecoat of white primer is necessary for the light colors.

Tamiya spray laquers are an excellent product, and more than likely will look terrific just sprayed on, without clearcoat or polishing. Tamiya aslo has a tutorial on usuing their paint here. It's more info than you really need, but theres some good stuff in it- especially the bit about heating cans in warm water before painting.

Good luck, and if you have more questions feel free to ask.

You may not have understood me correctly! This is my first car kit, but I am familiar with model kits! I've built plenty of model planes before! I've downloaded the instruction sheets for the Carrera GT so I can familiar myself with what needs to be done! I've done my homework! I've got plenty of people at home to help me when it comes to painting (in case I make a booboo) I'm not a total novice when it comes to kits but I know that this car won't be as easy as the 'sanp tight' kits. Now that I think of it...I did make a car kit! And it was a 'sanp-tight' Diablo! Believe me!... I'm more than ready to tackle this project head on!!!

By the way, for this project I'm going to use PE parts for the first time ever, so naturally I have a few questions.

1) Some parts need to be painted right?, and so how do I go about doing this? Do I just spray paint it like normal?

2) When you glue the pieces on, can I use just normal glue, or do I need special glue like cement or super?

Thanks to everyone who is spending a little time to help me out here!

Cheers,
George

[stevenoble]

Some people use a primer on the photo etch parts others just paint straight onto them with the appropriate colour.Liquid cement will not work with photoetch parts so you will need to use 2 part epoxy glue or superglue.

[opel56]

Originally Posted by stevenoble

Some people use a primer on the photo etch parts others just paint straight onto them with the appropriate colour.Liquid cement will not work with photoetch parts so you will need to use 2 part epoxy glue or superglue.

Thanks for the tip!

[cyberkid]

I use metel primer and C/A when doing PE parts... the paint doesn't 'sit' right when I don't prime the parts...Just be carefull of hazing when using the C/A.
I would suggest cleaning the parts up, gray primer, check for flaws, then white primer (or white paint) then color coat. Tamiya's cans give me near 2 models straight out of the can. 2+ when I decant it. As for primer....1 white + 1 grey can can give me up to 3 models.

HTH
Steve

[generationx]

I painted my Benetton B192 Chrome Yellow (TS-47?):



I used white primer, followed by two coats of "normal" yellow (TS16) then two coats of Chrome Yellow. That gave a pretty good result and definately different from TS16 on its' own.

[MPWR]

Do you have a PE set in mind? I would say skip it and save your money. Neither the Acustion set



nor the Studio 27 set



give the kit anything that isn't already done better in plastic. Of the two, I might say the Acustion might be better, but I really don't see the point in either. Brake overlays- why? Sure, they look OK if the brakes are cast iron, but the CGT has carbon ceramic rotors, and the kit parts are fabulous- the overlays don't add anything. The kit is good enough that it's hard to improve.

[opel56]

Originally Posted by MPWR

Do you have a PE set in mind? I would say skip it and save your money. Neither the Acustion set



nor the Studio 27 set



give the kit anything that isn't already done better in plastic. Of the two, I might say the Acustion might be better, but I really don't see the point in either. Brake overlays- why? Sure, they look OK if the brakes are cast iron, but the CGT has carbon ceramic rotors, and the kit parts are fabulous- the overlays don't add anything. The kit is good enough that it's hard to improve.

I have in mind th Studio 27 PE kit! I want to use 'cause it will add a more life like feel when it comes to the grills and stuff! I love to see model cars with mesh grills! Parts like the engine cover grills need to be PE 'cause the clear plastic with 'mesh impression' on it doesn't really make it feel that real. But once you have actual mesh it makes it seem much more real!

[MPWR]

You will never get parts 10 and 11 on the S27 set to fit. It's a fantasy. For an example of the exemplary quality of S27's mesh grilles and the shear pleasure they are to work with, take a look at my Ferrari F50 thread (in my sig). Yes, I did manage to finish the build with the mesh grille, but I wouldn't bet that it could be done a second time. I've never heard of anyone else ever using the grille successfully.

Want another example? Here are the intercoolers from Tamiya's F40 kit, and the mesh grilles from S27's F40 detail set (designed to fit the Tamiya kit).



Notice the perfect fit? S27 actually does have trouble with simple X and Y measurements. Also notice that the molded plastic really does look better than the photoetch?

For the CGT mesh, you'd be trying to bend a 2D part into complex 3D curves, and PE mesh just does not bend that way. Those parts are designed to catch the eye and sell the PE set- but not necessarily to fit the model.

If you just gotta have mesh there, I've heard that Acustion's CGT engine hood mesh set can be made to fit.



But you'll notice that it is a woven mesh, and doesn't really look alot like the hex grid mesh on the actual car. Having seen the kit built both ways, I'd have to say that the clear kit parts with decals are actually more convincing.

[wouter1981]

yep.. I agree with MPWR. Don't buy the PE set.. it doesn't give mucht extra's on the kit..only extra work...Abd those decals over the over the clear parts for mesh really looks good!