need help watermark tutorial

[ton394]

is there a how to - watermark tutorial here.. i want to see how they do it.. tnx

[Lambo003]

Ummmm . . . Whatcha mean? Watermarks on photos? If so, wrong forum. . .

Originally Posted by ton394

is there a how to - watermark tutorial here.. i want to see how they do it.. tnx

[ton394]

Originally Posted by Lambo003

Ummmm . . . Whatcha mean? Watermarks on photos? If so, wrong forum. . .

sorry its a mistake, what do you call the black thin lines drawn between the doors of the model kit. to make it more realistic. just like window frames.

[gpz900ra7]

I think you mean "the panel lines"

[winstona]

Hey I use these for references:

http://www.italianhorses.net/Tutorials/tutorials.htm

http://www.scalewiki.com/wiki/index....gory:Tutorials

You can try to go to these tutorial pages before posting these questions in the future. That's where I learn all my tricks!

Winston

[mickbench]

One other way is to try and get some games workshop inks. They are not cheap but they are pre thinned, and are water based. You can thin them even more with water. Are safe, easy and make panel lines look very nice.

This is my latest build, panel lines done with black games workshop ink. You just paint it on, ink is so thin it runs into the line and then that's it. You might need to wash the excess off, leave it to dry, use wax to remove excess..



One other trick is to also deepen the panel lines before applying any primer /paint. Use the back of a knife to deepen them out. Also dig out the primer before top coats from panel lines, and if you use a white topcoat, dig the panel lines out first, as the white will now cover them up and look very realistic.

HTH.

[mikemechanic]

Nice build Mick, I personally find black just too dark for my liking. Panel lines will always be a personal preference. Here is a pic of the 1:1 car and I dont see as black a line.

[mickbench]

Ah yeah I agree mike. I think black lines on a yellow car is just all wrong.

This is my honda S2000 with a mix of yellow and orange



And this is my Nissan 300ZX with black and then some lines in a very dark red



And this is my Shelby Cobra with pure black lines (WIP, not completed yet)



It's all about what looks good. I think black lines if done correctly can look good. Whereas sometimes they could look wrong. As for example the yellow S2000 would have been ruined with lines such as the skyline z-tune. Whereas the cobra the black lines look perfect.

White should always be deepen panel lines with light grey once top coated, whereas red should be a black /red mix. As I say, games workshop inks are best, Mixable and water based, perfect..

I'm sure many will now argue black is the only way to go, and some will say no to panel lines alltogether..

[mikemechanic]

Originally Posted by mickbench

I'm sure many will now argue black is the only way to go, and some will say no to panel lines alltogether..

Agreed Mick. The problem I have is I work on cars all day long and the lines never look black they just look like a darker color than the rest of the body. I build aircraft stuff and the argument is the same on those forums, blackwash, postshade, preshade......etc. Then I look at a picture of the real thing and can't see any panel lines whatsoever. It is just a matter of taste and artistic representation.

[ton394]

Originally Posted by gpz900ra7

I think you mean "the panel lines"

yep. anyway thanks to those who replied..

[ZoomZoomMX-5]

Originally Posted by mikemechanic

Agreed Mick. The problem I have is I work on cars all day long and the lines never look black they just look like a darker color than the rest of the body. I build aircraft stuff and the argument is the same on those forums, blackwash, postshade, preshade......etc. Then I look at a picture of the real thing and can't see any panel lines whatsoever. It is just a matter of taste and artistic representation.

True. I've resorted to doing black panel lines using .005 permanent markers on a primary coat of color, and then shooting more color over the body after the black lines are done. Very effective, it's a good way to get a smooth coat (wetsanding the surface of the first coats smooth prior to respray) and the panel lines actually do end up a darker shade of the color around them. I found that doing a wash was messy, and I usually do two stages of painting anyway to get the smoothest final surface. This technique is quick and relatively painless.



.005 is the smallest shown, also shown is .01 and .02


Panel line applied. After this I now shoot more color over the body to tone down the panel lines.

Models w/this technique: