Can anyone help me?

[Texas33]

Hi guys, I just signed up not 5 minutes ago so I'm brand new here to the board. I have a few questions about the new EVO VII and was curious if anyone could help me out.

I currently drive a Toyo and love it. Actually my whole family does with the exception of my wife(adopted Honda...hahaha). We've always driven Toyo's because they're such great cars. I've never had any major problems with them either. However mine will be 10 years old next year so I'm wanting a new car.

Forget the fact that I'm really into the import scene and the EVO will fit right in. I was wanting to get some honest opinions from some of the die-hard Mitsu owners on the board. What do you like best about your ride and what don't you like about it? I've read a few comparisons with the EVO and this thing looks to be the real deal. With the exception of the ride quality everything else seems to go in favor of the car. Is there anything not in the books that I'm missing and should know about before I get on one of these lists?

Like I said earlier, I've always driven Toyos so this is all totally new to me

[fogeesiksteythree]

the evo 7 is not as good as the other evos but its still pretty good. Its heavier and made to be more luxurious. The engines been de-tuned to meet US emissions laws and isnt as good. I also read somewhere that Tommy Makininen (one of mitsu's top rally drivers) said the evo 7 is undriveable. If you are a real hard core racer, then i suggest getting one of the older lancers, if you can get your hands on 1. If you are only into the racing scene a little bit and its all about the looks (aka poser) then the evo 7 is a good choice 4 you.

[banginnumitsu]

Well I don't know too uch about the new EVO...it's going to be a little out of my price range. What I can tell you about is the three mitsubishi's have driven. Right now I drive a '99 Mitsu Galant 4 banger. My mom drives a '01 Galant also. I have been totally impressed with the Galants. Even though they are only 4 bangers they are pretty quick. I also like to handle..for a stock car. I also just test drove the new Lancer OZ. The handling is really impressive for a little car. The ride for the cars is quite good too. ow the Evo will be a different kind of car but my family is pretty hardcore Mitsubishi and we love them. I have also had the opportunity to compare some other cars that my dad has...he sells cars so he gets a free demo every 5 months... I think that my Galant is right there with the handling of the new Chevy Monte Carlo and the Pontiac Grand Am. Both of these cars are impressive in themselves, but my Galant is right there with them. SO all I can really say is ROCK ON MITSUBISHI!!!!!!!!

[fogeesiksteythree]

yea the galants are pretty good. the galant vr-4 used to b mitsus rally car but they replaced it wit tha lancers a while back. The vr-4s are prertty tyte but im a lancer evo boi so id rather get a evo 4, but thats just me.

[LjasonL]

Originally posted by banginnumitsu
I have been totally impressed with the Galants. Even though they are only 4 bangers they are pretty quick. I also like to handle..for a stock car.

no offense, but go to another car company and test drive something a little quicker. right now the only thing remotely quick mitsubishi sells new is the eclipse v6, and even those handle badly. my friend has a 95 galant with a couple mods, and all i can say is that car has way too little power and suspension for its weight. honestly dude, im not trying to offend u, im just saying go to a company other than mitsu and test drive something, i think it may open your eyes a little. try this, test drive a lancer oz rally, a sentra ser spec v, and an n/a impreza all in the same day, and then tell me if u think the lancer handles or accelerates good.

[banginnumitsu]

I understand what you arew saying. But I have shopped around and...for my tastes at least...I have found mitsubishi to be one of the best. I drove the Nissan which was some what impressive, but the not as good a deal as the Lancer that I am looking at. Me, I have a limit to what I can spend on a car so the Nissan was a little out of hand. And, again no offense, the Subaru is butt ugly. And they are not worth purchasing unless you can get a WRX which is WAY out of my price range. As for the Galant, there is no way you can compare a 95 to a 99. There has been such an imrovement made in the Galant since 95. The 8th generation Galant(99-on) uses a lot of the part from the new eclipse. If you can drive you can get a decent amount of power from the 4 banger...let alone the V-6 which is from the Eclipse. Mitsubishi's have a great over all package...they are stylish(with out being tacky)and good power and handling, especially when you consider the deals you can get on them. So I dissagree with yopu evaluation of Mitsubishi...I stand by them.

[boostislove]

Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
the evo 7 is not as good as the other evos but its still pretty good. Its heavier and made to be more luxurious. The engines been de-tuned to meet US emissions laws and isnt as good. I also read somewhere that Tommy Makininen (one of mitsu's top rally drivers) said the evo 7 is undriveable. If you are a real hard core racer, then i suggest getting one of the older lancers, if you can get your hands on 1. If you are only into the racing scene a little bit and its all about the looks (aka poser) then the evo 7 is a good choice 4 you.

the engine being de-tuned doesn't mean it isn't as good; it means it's been de-tuned (i.e. made slower). you can do something I might like to call re-tuning to get it back up to spec.

I'd also like to see the interview/article you reference where tommi said the evo vii is undrivable; I'd like to see why he says so.

as far as this comment: "If you are only into the racing scene a little bit and its all about the looks (aka poser) then the evo 7 is a good choice 4 you". as far as looks go, the evo vii is the least aggressive-looking evo in a long while. I think someone trying to look like a poser would have an evo iv-vi body kit on a mirage or something like that. I personally think that someone driving an actual evo would not be looked upon as a poser, (unless he acted like vin diesel, but had no wrench time or driving skills). unless, of course, you hang with a bunch of riceboys with bad attitudes, but who really pays attention to their opinions anyway; I try not to.

besides, the evo has been seen to race the same track with the same driver at faster lap times than older evo generations; the entire assertion that the vii is "not as good" needs a little backing up

[LjasonL]

alright fair enough, but before u say the n/a impreza isnt worth buying, have u drove one? looks aside, it was the BEST thing i could find in my price range by far, mainly due to the very torquey engine and awd, 2 things uncommon in imports this price range.

[fogeesiksteythree]

i dont remeber exactly where i found tommy mak sayin that so i cant really back that, but when i said the evo isnt as good as older evos, i can back that. The evo 7 is heavier than previous models (Evos get heavier with each release) and you can look up the specs of each car and you can see that it is the heaviest. Its also designed for a more general audience, not as hardcore as before. Its got more luxery items so its heavier. When you say detuned, that sorta means its not as good. Sure you can re tune it, but tha older evos wouldnt need re-tuning. When you say that the real posers are people with evo bodykits, i half agree. if you go all the way and put the 4g63 into it, then u obviously cant be a poser since a wannabe wouldnt know how to do an engine plant. I live in the states so a fake evo is the closest thing you can get, unless the evo 7 makes it over.

[banginnumitsu]

Don't take what I am trying to say the wrong way. I'm not trying to dis the Subaru by any means. But you are trying to compare An Impreza to a Lancer. Fully loaded I can get a Lancer for $16,500. Where as the Subaru comes stripped at almost $18,000. If the Subaru is that much more that I would expect it to have better performance. These two cars are in different price ranges. To me I would rather spend my money on a loaded Lancer than have to strech for the base Subaru. That is why I am saying that it is not worth it to by a Subaru...that is in my situation. There are people in different situations that can afford to get he Subaru and put some good stuff into it.

[LjasonL]

Originally posted by banginnumitsu
Don't take what I am trying to say the wrong way. I'm not trying to dis the Subaru by any means. But you are trying to compare An Impreza to a Lancer. Fully loaded I can get a Lancer for $16,500. Where as the Subaru comes stripped at almost $18,000. If the Subaru is that much more that I would expect it to have better performance. These two cars are in different price ranges. To me I would rather spend my money on a loaded Lancer than have to strech for the base Subaru. That is why I am saying that it is not worth it to by a Subaru...that is in my situation. There are people in different situations that can afford to get he Subaru and put some good stuff into it.

yeah but, a base impreza is not stripped. an impreza comes standard with all that equipment u have to add to the lancer to get to 16,500.

[boostislove]

Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
i dont remeber exactly where i found tommy mak sayin that so i cant really back that, but when i said the evo isnt as good as older evos, i can back that. The evo 7 is heavier than previous models (Evos get heavier with each release) and you can look up the specs of each car and you can see that it is the heaviest. Its also designed for a more general audience, not as hardcore as before. Its got more luxery items so its heavier. When you say detuned, that sorta means its not as good. Sure you can re tune it, but tha older evos wouldnt need re-tuning. When you say that the real posers are people with evo bodykits, i half agree. if you go all the way and put the 4g63 into it, then u obviously cant be a poser since a wannabe wouldnt know how to do an engine plant. I live in the states so a fake evo is the closest thing you can get, unless the evo 7 makes it over.

first, heavier doesn't mean 'not as good'. I look at lap times between various evo's, and I see the vii beating all previous generations. heavier can be made up for by more power (which appears to be the case here).

second; of COURSE older evo's didn't get de-tuned; they never were imported to the US. that's the reason for de-tuning, and a few parts after I get my evo, I'll have it as near as j-spec as is possible on this side of the pacific (to begin with). then it'll be 'as good', or perhaps even better than j-spec after a few more mods.

third, a 4g63, turbo, and a body kit on a mirage, while an interesting project, doesn't disqualify one from being a poser. making something (or someone) appear to be different than what they are is the definition of being a poser. an evo-like mirage could practically BE a lancer, but it is STILL a mirage.