DET or Turbo Kit?

[AznVirus]

right now, im thinking of swapping in the sr20de with lower miles and putting a turbo kit on or just getting the sr20det. which do you think would be cheaper and more reliable?

[G-Forces]

Get the regular DE then turbo it with a Fmax Stage 1 or 2 if you want more power. You'll have to get some custom piping done but you'd have to do that anyway with the DET.

[AznVirus]

would that be cheaper than the getting the DET? with installation i mean. and do you have the fmax site address?

[slickkedar]

no clue on prices, but go here http://www.f-max.com/NISSAN.htm

[kenchan]

yeh, I might consider turbocharing my G too, considering the sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow acceleration I'm getting from it now. mine's a AT so, other than turbo or NOS, its basically hopless.

[G20er]

Originally posted by G-Forces
Get the regular DE then turbo it with a Fmax Stage 1 or 2 if you want more power. You'll have to get some custom piping done but you'd have to do that anyway with the DET.

Jason, what custom piping are necessary for SR20DET swap?

Thanks

G20er

[G22DET]

I would rather get the DET motor...the turbo kit will cost MORE than the motor and why not just get something that's already turboed with the proper internals?
From me, DET motors, fully compression tested, leaked down is $1500 plus shipping. That's not including ECU/harness but you can use your factory ones with the help of a fuel controller or tuned ECU by JWT or others.
hmmmm....i must have type the above info 2 million times...hehehe...and then P10DET will reply saying that it's cheaper to get a DE and then turbo it IF you wanna do all out 500hp car...(which is not desireable for street or track....only if you are interested in going in a straight line for 12secs or so...)

[P10DET]

Originally posted by G20er

Jason, what custom piping are necessary for SR20DET swap?

Unless you want to cut a hole in your hood for the top mount IC, you will need to get pipes for a front mount IC. You will also need a turbo downpipe regardless.

Or, wait for HotShot to come out with the DET installation kit I'm prototyping for the P10.

If you have a P11, you will need to get pipes made up.

[P10DET]

Originally posted by G22DET
I would rather get the DET motor...the turbo kit will cost MORE than the motor and why not just get something that's already turboed with the proper internals?

I agree.

Originally posted by G22DET
hmmmm....i must have type the above info 2 million times...hehehe...and then P10DET will reply saying that it's cheaper to get a DE and then turbo it IF you wanna do all out 500hp car...(which is not desireable for street or track....only if you are interested in going in a straight line for 12secs or so...)

Actually, I think the threshold is going over about 250-260 hp and doing a rebuild on the engine. Around 250-260 is when you have to replace the turbo, exhaust manifold, MAF, and injectors. This only matters if you are going to do a rebuild though. That is the important thing you didn't mention. If you aren't doing a rebuild, the DET is still the better place to start.

The rebuild is the key. If you're rebuilding, you end up paying $1000 extra for the DET and all you get are piston coolers and sodium filled valves. JWT can do the piston coolers for $250 and Swain can coat the valve faces for less than $200 and that will be as effective as the sodium filled valves.

So, it's a matter of hp *and* doing a rebuild.

[AznVirus]

well, even if i do get the sr20det, shouldnt i replace the turbo anyways? cause ive heard most arent reliable.

[G20er]

Originally posted by P10DET


Unless you want to cut a hole in your hood for the top mount IC, you will need to get pipes for a front mount IC. You will also need a turbo downpipe regardless.

Or, wait for HotShot to come out with the DET installation kit I'm prototyping for the P10.

If you have a P11, you will need to get pipes made up.

George,

Do you have a good idea of when the HotShot G20 DET install kit will be ready?

Thanks
G20er

[G20er]

Originally posted by P10DET


Unless you want to cut a hole in your hood for the top mount IC, you will need to get pipes for a front mount IC. You will also need a turbo downpipe regardless.

Or, wait for HotShot to come out with the DET installation kit I'm prototyping for the P10.

If you have a P11, you will need to get pipes made up.

Cutting a hole in the hood because of clearance issues or because of effeciency issues?

L8R
G20er

[P10DET]

Originally posted by AznVirus
well, even if i do get the sr20det, shouldnt i replace the turbo anyways? cause ive heard most arent reliable.

They can be rebuilt.

It's a crap shoot regarding getting a good turbo. Fortunately for me a friend in SoCal went o Soken and found one in excellent shape for me.

[P10DET]

Originally posted by G20er

Do you have a good idea of when the HotShot G20 DET install kit will be ready?

No I don't yet. I just finished making the pipes and getting my car running. I don't know if I will send my current pipes or make another set to send to HS to make jigs from. I'm leaning towards making another set since I think I can do a little better job (this was my first attempt, but they came out better than most anyway).

I'll probably be some time in the fall as the earliest, but I can't even say that. I don't know what John's schedule is like. Right now he can sell all the headers he can make. I think by sending him completed pipes though will help the process. I'm sure it will depend somewhat upon demand.

[G22DET]

SR20DET are VERY reliable..just keep in mind that since it's a turbo, you have to change oil at the suggested time, maintaining wise, it's not as scary as people think
about the Turbo upgrade, unless you are thinking about making your DET a power monster...(which at stock ratings with fine tuning can you get 250hp...THAT'S very powerful by any standard)
you would need to get a bigger turbo...meaning a new manifold meaning $$$. or you can get the HKS GT2530 ball bearing turbo which mounts right on the factory manifold...but are you prepared to pay $2475 list price for that? if you are, go for it, 300HP+ with that turbo alone.
what i am saying is, get the motor from me if you decided..i'll do everything i can visually to insure the motor is a good one (most poeple dont even have people checkingout the motor before sending itout) and once you get the DET in, if you want more power, we'll go from there