how to start drifting

[kei-office]

hi guys .... i'm new in here and i'm looking some advice , suggestion and skills from master here !! i'm driving a nissan cefiro with R32 engine RB20 ! any preparearation i need to do? alignment ....engine....or anything ? izzit any website out there that teach people drift ?

hope can hear from u guys !

cheers

[EVOclipse]

first get an LSD, next tune your suspension to have little body roll, next find a comfortable low stance with appropriate spring rates(ie no bumpsteering pancakes) then go out and purchase the "drift bible" from option videos and learn to drift.

[R.W.240]

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

first get an LSD.

Thoughts on LSDs from Me.
-If you cant drift an Open your a suckass and shouldnt be paying 900$ for a clutch type
- If you pay 900$ for an LSD for a drift only car your wasting your money
-VLSDs do not count as True Limited Slips
-Welded Diffs work perfect for drifting (blah Blah "Turn In" Blah Blah)

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

next tune your suspension to have little body roll.

Eh, if your just starting out you prolly wont want a stiffly sprung car. the reason the pros run huge Roll Stiffness is for quick transitions and a predictable slide. starting out on a car with Good Coilovers and Anti-Roll bars should be tougher since the car will be transfering weight more quickly. Id say as long as your shocks and bushings arent blown to shit... stock will be fine.

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

(ie no bumpsteering pancakes)

OMG OMG Bump Steer! - if you plan on being a cry baby about bumpsteer when you go low get bump steer adjusters. (Ie Tie Rod Ends)

on a further note - WTF is a Bumpsteering Pancake?

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

then go out and purchase the "drift bible" from option videos and learn to drift.

This Being the most retarded statement I have ever seen in my life. spend 30$ on a played out DVD with info that can be found everywhere on the net or spend 30$ getting a bunch of suckass tires and doing it yourself.

I Pray to god your kidding but your lack of an "LOL" and other generic magazine comments tells me otherwise.





All you need to drift is
A RWD Car with basic maintence..................Check
Enough Power to Spin 2nd around a corner....Check
Some Balls/Lots of money or a drifting event... Its around find it.

***Extra Points awarded for practicing drifting at autcrosses since they get their panties in a bunch***

at an event... Dont try to do it like a pro your first time with 100mph e-brake entrys your first time and if way late power over exits is all you feel comfortable with then go with it. You'll get used to it and likely you can get someone there with more experience tell you how you should practice to get better.

[silvia15]

i hate it when people have nice cars and have no idea what to do with them.

[Tougeman]

Originally Posted by silvia15

i hate it when people have nice cars and have no idea what to do with them.

ZOMG yous don't know how to DrRFT and yous gots a Cefiro!!!!11!!11 one one one !1!!1

yous must bes a t0tal n00bor ZOMG!!!


silvia go eat shit and don't come back not everyone gets sucked into a gimmick scene like a 13yr old

[drftk1d]

you should learn how to performance drive first.

learn racing lines and such, and drive your car to learn when the car transitions to oversteer (parking lot or at an evernt, track whatever). dont try to drift on purpose, find out when your car starts to drift from pushing too hard.

then go practice techniques like donuts and 180 turns, etc

[gigglesnirt]

find an autocross event near you, enter it for a cheap price, learn the limit of your car, since here all you'll be hitting is a cone or two, then you can try sliding and modifying.

[Clutch_Kick]

driftk1d is right, be able to take a proper line through a corner and then learn to slip the end while maintaining that line....

[EVOclipse]

first i didnt say go installing double wishbones or anything i just said a nice ride height thats lower than stock and has less body roll i didnt say create a d1 car and try and drift. but i feel that this argument of learning to drift stock being better is best summed up like surfboarding...NO its not the same thing. why not just learn the short board first instead of learning on some easier bigger board and then relearn it for a performance model. learning to drift on stock shocks and springs is a pain you get way to much body roll which equals more weight on the top half of your car is moving(maybe just a strut bar set would be better than say sway bars) but going on stock just means your body moves a crapload and puts more weight on 1 tire in particular increasing your chances of blowing it out.
and a bumpsteering pancake is something most of the homeboy ricers like to do....which means u drop ure shit on the ground and look stupidly low, goto your local highschool ull see a few

[R.W.240]

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

i feel that this argument of learning to drift stock being better is best summed up like surfboarding...NO its not the same thing. why not just learn the short board first instead of learning on some easier bigger board and then relearn it for a performance model.

If its the same thing then why suggest spending for mods before you even know if you like it or for that matter... even know how to do it? you wont have to relearn anything once you do suspension. you'll just have to react quicker. all the basic techniques are the same... in any form of driving.

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

learning to drift on stock shocks and springs is a pain you get way to much body roll which equals more weight on the top half of your car is moving(maybe just a strut bar set would be better than say sway bars)

One of Formula D's higher qualifiers is on stock suspension and VLSD (granted hes never placed in the mainday but you pretty well have to be a seeded works driver to do that).

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

but going on stock just means your body moves a crapload and puts more weight on 1 tire in particular increasing your chances of blowing it out.

Weight Transfer Mainly depends on Static weight, Tire Grip and suspension geometry. all a stiff / low suspension will do is transfer weight quicker. (technically more weight will be transfered due to the longer roll moment) body roll will aslo make flaws in your driving more apparent...

Tires pop when drifting from a combination of running em down to the cords and the high heat building tire pressure. load has very little to do with it.

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

and a bumpsteering pancake is something most of the homeboy ricers like to do....which means u drop ure shit on the ground and look stupidly low, goto your local highschool ull see a few

180sx + Low enough to need to notch frame > * > Wheel Gap

[EVOclipse]

Originally Posted by R.W.240

Weight Transfer Mainly depends on Static weight, Tire Grip and suspension geometry. all a stiff / low suspension will do is transfer weight quicker. (technically more weight will be transfered due to the longer roll moment) body roll will aslo make flaws in your driving more apparent...

Tires pop when drifting from a combination of running em down to the cords and the high heat building tire pressure. load has very little to do with it.

ok and what kind of conditions do you think driftings creates on a tires. add an increased load on 1 tire instead of 2 and your bound to improve your chances of a blow out.

as for finding out if u like drifing....man who wouldnt...i only have this pos fwd eclipse and i still love sliding through corners ..hell i love it.

[R.W.240]

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

ok and what kind of conditions do you think driftings creates on a tires. add an increased load on 1 tire instead of 2 and your bound to improve your chances of a blow out.

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

but going on stock just means your body moves a crapload and puts more weight on 1 tire in particular increasing your chances of blowing it out.

There will be a slightly higher chance of blowing out yes - but with coilovers. the Point your missing is that your transfering the same amount of weight. its just less Visible and quicker. Then theres the Roll Moment, lowering a car make it longer so the weight being transfered has more torque acting on the tire. so Coilovers would be more likely to blow tires.

But if its the weight of the car thats blowing tires you've got hoes.

[Clutch_Kick]

proved your-ass wrong

[R.W.240]

Originally Posted by Clutch_Kick

proved your-ass wrong

YEAH DAWG

DOORRRRIFFFTOOO!!!!!!!111






















WTF?

[RaidenKing]

Originally Posted by EVOclipse

...i only have this pos fwd eclipse and i still love sliding through corners ..hell i love it.

EBRAKE SLIDEZZZZ +111