my pics of the famous 11R

PatrickT82 · 07-14-2005, 09:37 AM

chassis 11R as seen this week on monday at KS Autohandel in Meckenheim, Germany! in total I've seen 10 McLarens!!

bucciali · 07-14-2005, 12:43 PM

Patrick, you lucky .... chicken!

11R, Booya!! Werrie naisj. Saw it in Copenhagen last year, together with the Dauer. Stupid me, I must have been high or st, I forgot my camera! Doh!

Thumbs up for taking the tour down there and sharing the pics!

/Bucciali

F1 monster · 07-14-2005, 01:00 PM

Interesting collection of cars. I like the F40 over the F50, and I would take a CLK DTM over the S55, but the others are pretty cool.

Not talking about the McLarens, of course, they are always at the top of my list.

I would also add a Koenigsegg CCR and Carrera GT to the collection.

PatrickT82 · 07-14-2005, 04:38 PM

yes the trip costed me 50 euros!

but I do anything to see a McLaren (chassis) I havent seen before!

Peloton25 · 07-14-2005, 04:41 PM

Nice work and nice photos. I saw your story on SCF about playing the "I came all the way from Holland" card to get him to let you take pics. Nice work there!

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BMW.WilliamsF1Team · 07-14-2005, 06:31 PM

Great pictures! My favorite is where you can see both 23R and 11R.

PatrickT82 · 07-14-2005, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW.WilliamsF1Team

Great pictures! My favorite is where you can see both 23R and 11R.

oh ok!
the longtail is 23R??? thnxks!!! because I also have pics of that one! a half year earlier and also last monday: but those pics arent ready yet (no digital huh

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Peloton25 · 07-14-2005, 07:54 PM

It has been advertised as #23R. It's somewhat hard to be sure with those cars as there were actually four longtail GTRs that wore the FINA livery through the 1997 season and at times they had slightly different liveries and different race numbers depending if they were in the FIA GT series or at LeMans.

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BMW.WilliamsF1Team · 07-14-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Peloton25

It has been advertised as #23R. It's somewhat hard to be sure with those cars as there were actually four longtail GTRs that wore the FINA livery through the 1997 season and at times they had slightly different liveries and different race numbers depending if they were in the FIA GT series or at LeMans.

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I based it off the drivers' names, Kox and Ravaglia, which QV500 shows them as teammates for the majority of 23Rs race time. I think there was 1 other Fina GTR that used number 9 a few times and I know the number 8 was used on several chassis.

rr_ww · 07-15-2005, 01:15 PM

Out of curiosity.

How many Euros?

Peloton25 · 07-15-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW.WilliamsF1Team

I based it off the drivers' names, Kox and Ravaglia, which QV500 shows them as teammates for the majority of 23Rs race time. I think there was 1 other Fina GTR that used number 9 a few times and I know the number 8 was used on several chassis.

I see the point you are making, and normally would agree, but you can't be so certain based simply on the driver's names on the door. Nothing would stop someone from buying one longtail GTR and having it refinished to look like another more successful car, all the way down to the last detail of the livery. The fact that there are two #39 short tailed FINA GTRs proves that. Since there is no guarantee we are looking at an original livery on the car you have to be skeptical until more info is there to confirm it. In this case, the KS-Autohandel ad offered the chassis number.

I have seen the same thing happen with other historic race cars - taking an also-ran and refinishing it to appear like the car with all the glory.

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PatrickT82 · 07-15-2005, 03:37 PM

but is the longtail now at KS really 23R?

I asked the guy but he didnt knew.

Now I emailed the boss but he doesnt respond

Peloton25 · 07-15-2005, 05:13 PM

That was the chassis number they listed it with in their advertisement on Mobile.de website. I would assume it is correct until further proof otherwise.

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PatrickT82 · 08-04-2005, 05:37 PM

Was there again yesterday and it still is in Meckenheim.

More pics on saturday

But why isnt it listed at the site of KS Autohandel??

Anybody know the asking price?

rr_ww · 08-05-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PatrickT82

Was there again yesterday and it still is in Meckenheim.

More pics on saturday

But why isnt it listed at the site of KS Autohandel??

Anybody know the asking price?

When you go back to take the photos. Just ask a sales person. In fact dont just ask how much. Ask everything about it.

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