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Old 07-31-2005, 05:08 PM
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Found this VERY interesting vid by accident.

http://70.84.33.210/~infomedi/video/...alpreview2.wmv

Not much of a conspiracy guy, but here is how I found this vid:

I was searching for reviews in forums from people who have seen the movie "Sky High", which I will be taking my kids to see in an hour, so I searched Google with the key words ["sky high" forums]. I did find what I was looking for, but it also show me this thread from a - guess what - conspiracy forum: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread149426/pg1

There's people both believing, and unbelieving in the thread, so whatever your view, you'll see a reflection of yours, somewhat, in the thread.

Anyhow, somebody posted the link above, and I must say, it does make you think somewhat, and it is hard to refute what they are showing in the vid.

Either way, I present it to the thinking men and women in here, and you take what you wish from it. I offer no opinion of my own, other than "it made me think".

I wish to see other people's responses, after viewing the vid themselves.
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It makes you ask questions but for some reason, saying the U.S. Government had their hand in 9/11 seems like the biggiest pile of shit I've ever seen.

I like to watch buildings blow up on FOX specials and stuff like that, who doesn't? If there was an explosion at the very bottom of the WTC wouldn't it fall differently. If you watch, the area where the planes hit gives out and the parts of the building above that fall on it and bring the building down.

Now I'm not an explosives expert but if the bottom structer had been damaged wouldn't we have seen the entire building fall at once? If I punch you really hard in the gut you're going to bend over and probably fall to your knees in need of air. Now if I hit you in the gut and then kick you're feet out from under you, your whole body is just going to fall to the ground. You're not going to bend over like you did and then fall.

Even if there were explosives, it has been stated, that the terrorist took years to plan this whole thing. Why isn't it possible some rag head was messing around in the parking garage of the WTC that morning?

As for the jet fuel, has anybody ever burned it? Jet fuel is not like gasoline that just goes up real quickly. Jet fuel is made to burn hot and long, like diesel, but more so. Now the fire went out but how is it not known that the damage hadn't already been done? How is it not known that the steel had been bent and slowly gave away while the fires were being put out?

Also, as for the "crime scene evidence" being covered up, I guess all those specials on Discovery channel of guys going through the rubble and taking it back for their own studies was a fake. Also, I bet all those guys pointing out where the steel had been bent by exposer to extreme heat were faked too.

The next time that special or anything to do with 9/11 comes on I'll look for the black helicopter in the background.
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Re: Found this VERY interesting vid by accident.

Yup made me think! Think how gullible some people are and how they try so hard to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Re: Found this VERY interesting vid by accident.

I assume you believe that 'it was missles that hit the Pentagon not a plane' flash animation, too?
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Re: Re: Found this VERY interesting vid by accident.

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I assume you believe that 'it was missles that hit the Pentagon not a plane' flash animation, too?

Hell yeah man, its the internet, the internet never lies!
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Re: Found this VERY interesting vid by accident.

Wow.

This is why I didn't even mention whether I believe it or not. I wanted to specifically see what the usual suspects will say against the vid, and against the person posting the video.

If any of you had stumbled on the video yourself, you would not have shared it, so that people can take their OWN ideas from it. You would gladly stick your finger in your ears, and pretend you never even heard/saw it.

Anyhow, as "gullible" as I am, how do you explain:

• Tower 7 getting "pulled" as stated in the vid, as explained by the OWNER of the building, when the official claim is still that all the towers went down due to fire?

• The same owner, who has owned Tower 7 for a decade or so, bought/leased ALL the towers 2 months before the incident, and insured them for combined total of 3 billion, which he has since been paid? Here's a link referring to Tower 7 specifically, from the WSJ: http://homes.wsj.com/columnists_com/...10-bricks.html

Here's a report from the appointed broker of Mr. Silverstein, the owner, mentioning his acquisition of the rest of the WTC:
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In July 2001, Silverstein completed the largest real estate transaction in New York history by acquiring the 10 million sq. ft. World Trade Center, only to see it destroyed by terrorist attacks six weeks later on September 11.
Did the vid say 2 months prior? Correction, it was 6 weeks.

And here's the WSJ again, mentioning the 3.5 billion he got out of his 300+ million investment: http://www.realestatejournal.com/reg...002-grant.html

• Firefighters, WHO WERE THERE, saying they heard explosions below, and those who were IN THE TOWER, radio-ing that the fires were contained?

I wasn't going to mention the people who were asking for help in the gaping holes where the planes hit, when supposedly there was literally enough heat to melt the building - somebody would say "the jet fuel went down...". Well - the firefighters' radio voices say otherwise.

• Explain those to me, all of you who would degrade other people's "thinking", only because it varies from your "thoughts".

It may even be a private insurance scam, without government involvement, for all we know. from the rumors, it was only the Israelis in the building that were pre-warned, and to be a stereotyping asshole, Silverstein is, well...
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Re: Found this VERY interesting vid by accident.

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Propaganda at it's best. I bet all of those people rushed out to see Michael Moore's film too. I know the government doesn't care too much about us, but having a cover-up for 9/11 and 3000 people dying....yea right. So what if there's a bunker under Building 7, it's SUPPOSE to be a secret bunker! I mean do these people think that we don't want our those running our country in as safe a place as possible if we are severely attacked? I know id rather them be alive trying to figure out something to do then them all be dead. Shit there's supposedly one under the Empire State Building and the Pentagon as well.

Oh and how do we know if the guy's lease/insurance policies were not about to expire and time for him to re-finance and re-insure his properties? The time could just be conicidental.

As many people bitch about having to work too many hours and not enough time for family and friends, how do these people have all this extra time to protest crap like this.
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Re: Found this VERY interesting vid by accident.

Weird...
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Nicely crafted story. They worked in 'mysterious' music to help support it at key points. Good post production work.

Aside from that, I am sure someone has an agenda on Mr Silverstien as well as the government.

Boy, that guy got excited about Marvin Bush. The fact his contract ended on that day is a nice coincidence to pick up on.













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Shit there's supposedly one under the Empire State Building and the Pentagon as well.
I know for a fact there's one under the Pentagon but the Empire State Building I'm not so sure.
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Re: Found this VERY interesting vid by accident.

This is just the conspiracy of the month club. What ever happened to the missile conspiracy or the Isreal government planned this, or the you get the point.

If you get 20 people together and they watch the same thing happen you will get 20 versions of what they thought they saw and not the truth. Face it under duress of an event the size of 9-11 will warp the person who witnessed it. To these people they are repeating what they thought they saw. Look at JFK 30 years later people still want to believe in a conspiracy.

Most of the quotes posted so far come from one person a Dr. Albert D. Pastore Phd.

If you look hard enough you will find next month's conspiracy.
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Re: Found this VERY interesting vid by accident.

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/arcticbeacon.html

that's a link to a piece if I can call it that. This piece states that 9-11 was planned in 1976.


A friend of mine once told me the only way for 3 people to keep a secret is if 2 of them are dead. This conspiarcy would require too many people to pull off and the chances of all of them remaining silent is a long shot.
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