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Old 12-01-2004, 08:59 PM   #1
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Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

Posted: 11/11
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US troops are reportedly using chemical weapons and poisonous gas in its large-scale offensive on the Iraqi resistance bastion of Fallujah, a grim reminder of Saddam Hussein’s alleged gassing of the Kurds in 1988.

“The US occupation troops are gassing resistance fighters and confronting them with internationally-banned chemical weapons,” resistance sources told Al-Quds Press Wednesday, November 10.

The fatal weapons led to the deaths of tens of innocent civilians, whose bodies litter sidewalks and streets, they added.

“They use chemical weapons out of despair and helplessness in the face of the steadfast and fierce resistance put up by Fallujah people, who drove US troops out of several districts, hoisting proudly Iraqi flags on them. Resistance has also managed to destroy and set fire to a large number of US tanks and vehicles.

“The US troops have sprayed chemical and nerve gases on resistance fighters, turning them hysteric in a heartbreaking scene,” an Iraqi doctor, who requested anonymity, told Al-Quds Press.

“Some Fallujah residents have been further burnt beyond treatment by poisonous gases,” added resistance fighters, who took part in Golan battles, northwest of Fallujah.

In August last year, the United States admitted dropping the internationally-banned incendiary weapon of napalm on Iraq, despite earlier denials by the Pentagon that the “horrible” weapon had not been used in the three-week invasion of Iraq.

After the offensive on Iraq ended on April 9 last year, Iraqis began to complain about unexploded cluster bombs that still litter their cities.

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The sources said that the media blackout, the banning of Al-Jazeera satellite channel and subjective embedded journalists played well into the hands of the US military.

“Therefore, US troops opted for using internationally banned weapons to soften the praiseworthy resistance of Fallujah people.

“More and more, the US military edits and censors reports sent by embedded journalists to their respective newspapers and news agencies,” the sources added.

Iraqi Defense Minister Hazem Al-Shaalan had said Tuesday, November 9, would be decisive.

“Al-Shaalan declaration meant nothing but the use of chemical weapons and poisonous gases to down Fallujah fighters,” observers told Al-Quds Press.

The reported gassing stands as a grim reminder of Saddam Hussein's alleged gassing of the Kurdish community in the northern city of Halbja in 1988.

While the West insisted that Saddam was the one behind the heinous attack, the ousted president pointed fingers at the then Iranian regime.

http://mathaba.net/x.htm?http://www.....shtml?x=82581

Of course,without more proof,I can't say that it happened,but.......
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:56 PM   #2
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Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

Media blackouts and weapons of mass destruction, sounds like we're the new soviets to me.
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Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

Sounds like BS to me without any proof besides this one link.
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Old 12-01-2004, 10:46 PM   #4
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Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

Would like to see more evidence before makin any conclusion. One web site is not positive evidence in my opinion
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Re: Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

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Sounds like BS to me without any proof besides this one link.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta=

If you really wanted more evidence,you'd look for it yourselves.
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:48 PM   #6
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Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

Since every side in Iraq has a propeganda machine operating at what seems like Warp 9, I take everything I read from Iraq with large grains of salt.
I don't believe either the Americans or the Islamic press.
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http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta=

If you really wanted more evidence,you'd look for it yourselves.
Thanks for the link but my only problem is the first 3 pages are all the same story from IPS. The IPS story posted on 30 sites doesn't prove anything except that we have stupid people jumping up and down on any little bit of negative talk against the American soliders.

The liberal chant is getting old. When you have proof besides one IPS story come back and update us.
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Re: Re: Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

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http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta=

If you really wanted more evidence,you'd look for it yourselves.


Funny, that statement regarding evidence is the same thing I said to you regarding your request fro proof in another thread. Are you using the same stadard for your argument that you apply to everyone elses?

And, I would point out that this is an argument put forward by those who disagree with the US. This does not pass the litmus test you proposed for the Marine shooting. Again, is there more than one standard being used here? I believe so.
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Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

There is no proof that either that viewpoint, nor the US viewpoint is correct. We'll never know until it's all over.

I don't trust American media, but I certainly don't trust Islamic media either. Interesting read, though.
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Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

And of COURSE the insurgents are going to point the finger. I'm surprised it took them this long to accuse the US of more atrocities.

-edit- whether true or not, and yes I read the articles.
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:50 PM   #11
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Re: Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

This is exactly why the military allowed reporters to travel with them through the battle of fallujah. Lets see, MSNBC, CNN, Fox news, dozens of newspapers and not one has reported chemical gases used against the insurgents. Good one TARANAKi!
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I basically posted this for my own amusement.I get so tired of seeing the same old posters starting the same ridiculous threads full of pro-Bush garbage dressed up as journalism.Thought I'd take the time to find something that was blatantly biased and patently unprovable from the other side for a change,just to see who was shallow enough to bite.

Thanks for playing,guys, if you've questioned the value of this thread, perhaps you'd be so good as to refrain from posting any more like it.It's time people stopped making excuses for a deadbeat President with a loose set of marbles.
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Re: Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

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Posted: 11/11
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...and I get acused of stirring shit.
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...and I get acused of stirring shit.
Your links are seldom any less biased.
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This is exactly why the military allowed reporters to travel with them through the battle of fallujah. Lets see, MSNBC, CNN, Fox news, dozens of newspapers and not one has reported chemical gases used against the insurgents. Good one TARANAKi!
True, but we have no more reason to believe everything they report, other than for familiarity's sake, or because the U.S. propaganda has done such a thorough job of labelling the Islamic untrustworthy...
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