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consequences of venting
i would like to run a tial BOV ,so what are the consequences of venting with out useing dsm link or any olther kind of computer alteratlions (so venting with everything stock) ?
PS :wooo hooo first thread!!!!
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![]() 1998 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 6 Bolt Swap \ DSMLink V2.5 \ ACT 2100 clutch \ PTE SCM 61 \ Forge MBC@28psi \ VPE O2 Housing \ MR Downpipe \ Thermal R&D Cat-Back \ Tial 38mm WG dumping off O2 \ FMIC w\ in short route \ AFPR setup/walbro 255hp \ PTE 880cc injectors \ Crower Ti retianers \ Crower Springs \ Crower 64414 (stage 3 race) cams \ Ferrea valves \ 3.5 bar MAP \ PLX M-300 Wideband |
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Re: consequences of venting
when you recirculate the BOV the MAS already compensates for the air dumped back in so your car runs fine... when you vent the air that was originally dumped back in doesnt anymore and the MAS doesnt change. so it still thinks there is more air entering the motor so you run rich... not worth the troubles like your car stalling at intersections, blowing smoke from running rich. the best way to do this is put a 3-3.5" GM MAF in the upper intercooler pipe after the BOV and run the MAF translator so now it measures the correct amount of air entering the motor!
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Re: consequences of venting
Yes, DSMlink, AFC, etc, dont do anything to let you vent the BOV. You need to change the air metering system. VPC, MAFt, AEM, etc.
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Kevin Jewer RWD Talon - 7.92 at 180 Mightymax - 10.7 at 125 |
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Re: consequences of venting
how much does the gm maf translator cost? and does someone sell just the adapter that i could get the maf sensor from a junkyard?
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-1stGenRocks- 95 Tsi AWD: 6 bolt, DSMLink, 880's, ACT 2600, lightweight flywheel, AGX's, Dropzone springs, poly motor mounts and suspension bushings, 3 inch turboback, gus modded 1g BOV, hardpipes, drilled & slotted rotors, 17's plans: bastard 20g, water/meth injection NO FMIC |
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Re: consequences of venting
the translator is about $200 unless you can find it on ebay for cheaper... some people on dsmtuners sell them with the GM MAF sometimes for $200.
yes you can get the MAF sensor from a junkyard! |
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Re: consequences of venting
www.fullthrottlespeed.com is the main vendor. They also have a forum at www.fullthrottletech.com. You cna see pics of it on my setup, on my page (www.posracing.net). Click on the link in my mod list for the 3.5" UICP.
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Kevin Jewer RWD Talon - 7.92 at 180 Mightymax - 10.7 at 125 |
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Re: consequences of venting
if some one wants a gm MAF.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...927951943&rd=1 pounce on that!!
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![]() 1998 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 6 Bolt Swap \ DSMLink V2.5 \ ACT 2100 clutch \ PTE SCM 61 \ Forge MBC@28psi \ VPE O2 Housing \ MR Downpipe \ Thermal R&D Cat-Back \ Tial 38mm WG dumping off O2 \ FMIC w\ in short route \ AFPR setup/walbro 255hp \ PTE 880cc injectors \ Crower Ti retianers \ Crower Springs \ Crower 64414 (stage 3 race) cams \ Ferrea valves \ 3.5 bar MAP \ PLX M-300 Wideband |
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Re: consequences of venting
i wish dsmlink had gm maf translating capeability. it would make things just that much easyer!!!
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Re: Re: consequences of venting
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Eh? All you need to do is zero out everything on the MAF translator and use dsmlink to tune with. Simple as that
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Re: Re: consequences of venting
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![]() 1997 Spyder GS-T 5-Speed EVO III 16g, DSMLink, Walboro 190 lph Fuel Pump, FIC 650cc injectors, CoolingMist 150psi Methanol Injection, Greddy EVO 2 Cat Back, 2.5" Extreme DP, 2.5" Extreme Hi-Flow Cat, Injen intake, HyperDrive C1 Street Disk & PP, HyperDrive Lightweight Flywheel, 1g BOV, RRE UICP, Home Depot MBC, AEM UEGO WBO2, Brembo Slotted rotors, Akebono Ceramic Pads |
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Re: consequences of venting
The sensor has to have a plug on it so you can use it, just like your stock sensor plugs in. Only in this case you plug it into the translator, then the translator plugs into the cars MAS plug.
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Kevin Jewer RWD Talon - 7.92 at 180 Mightymax - 10.7 at 125 |
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Re: consequences of venting
i was venting my greddy for ages till i actually realized I was venting it, lol. not too much of a problem during shifts, just play your gas pedal/clutch timing right and you shouldnt notice too much of a jerk.
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Re: Re: consequences of venting
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![]() 1997 Spyder GS-T 5-Speed EVO III 16g, DSMLink, Walboro 190 lph Fuel Pump, FIC 650cc injectors, CoolingMist 150psi Methanol Injection, Greddy EVO 2 Cat Back, 2.5" Extreme DP, 2.5" Extreme Hi-Flow Cat, Injen intake, HyperDrive C1 Street Disk & PP, HyperDrive Lightweight Flywheel, 1g BOV, RRE UICP, Home Depot MBC, AEM UEGO WBO2, Brembo Slotted rotors, Akebono Ceramic Pads |
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Re: consequences of venting
what would the effects of this mod be on the engine and HP/torque?
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You need both the GM MAF and the MAF translator for it to work properly on our cars. If only the GM MAF were all we needed that would be beautiful...$40 and we could vent flawlessly. Alas, this is not the case.On a side note, I heard a very nice WRX drive by with what sounded like an Apexi BOV...I heard it from about 100 yards away, and it was louder than my recirc'd 1g from inside the car . Then I remembered Kevin's video vs. the WRX, and just smiled
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