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Old 09-11-2004, 11:45 PM   #1
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Quotes form the democrats

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten time since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,1998

"[WE] urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively t! o the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry( D - MA), and others Oct. 9,1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has .. chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." > - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" - Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with! weapons of mass destruction is real" - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW EVERY ONE OF THESE SAME DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED--THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR UNNECESSARILY!
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Old 09-12-2004, 02:01 AM   #2
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Ok, guess what, they say this, george goes in and finds out they dont' exist, he says they do and he proceedes to start a war with them, and then teh democrats blame them. Your a moron.
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You can't expect to find WMD on the first day. There was proof they were there. Besides they meaning the dems above primarily clinton had proof they were there as well, they just didn't have the balls. But I guess you wouldn't probably know that since you weren't in kindergarten yet when Clinton came into office.
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You can't expect to find WMD on the first day. There was proof they were there. Besides they meaning the dems above primarily clinton had proof they were there as well, they just didn't have the balls. But I guess you wouldn't probably know that since you weren't in kindergarten yet when Clinton came into office.
Yeah wicked point, attacking anyone without explaining anything rocks!!! Go you!
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You can't expect to find WMD on the first day. There was proof they were there. Besides they meaning the dems above primarily clinton had proof they were there as well, they just didn't have the balls. But I guess you wouldn't probably know that since you weren't in kindergarten yet when Clinton came into office.
These quotes obviously indicate that Clinton was being served with the same defective intellegence that Bush received.

Just because the Democrats said this at that time in no way implies that their current anti - war stand is hypocracy. It just shows that, unlike Bush, they can learn from current events and reach a more rational conclusion.

I don't think you are a moron, Flatrater, but your ability to grasp at any and all anti-Democrat straw implies..........










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I'm just wondering what happened to the WMDs since theres no evidence that Saddam destroyed them
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You can't expect to find WMD on the first day. There was proof they were there. Besides they meaning the dems above primarily clinton had proof they were there as well, they just didn't have the balls. But I guess you wouldn't probably know that since you weren't in kindergarten yet when Clinton came into office.
please try to talk sense. there are no WMD, and there's been ample time to find them.Bush knew that there were none at the main sites of concern because the UN was there inspecting them.Bush claimed that these weapons could be fired within 45 minutes, yet they vanished without trace when Iraq and her borders were under intense scruutiny.Either Saddam worked a miracle in order to turn over his country to an invading force without leaving any evidence, or they never existed.Given that the man was at least half as bad as Bush claimed,if Saddam had them ,he would have used them.

They never existed.Bush lied.
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I'm just wondering what happened to the WMDs since theres no evidence that Saddam destroyed them
Try to get it into your head that there were none.
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Try to get it into your head that there were none.
Actually in 1998 he admitted to having chemical and biological weapons. Those are the weapons that I'm refering to because every method of destroying them leaves a residue and none of this residue has been discovered in Iraq
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Most likely a bluff, either way someone didn't do thier job properly somewhere along the line. If they did, we wouldn't be in this mess.
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Most likely a bluff, either way someone didn't do thier job properly somewhere along the line. If they did, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Considering that he had ued WMDs before I highly doubt it was a bluff, and at the time he did not have to worry about attacks if he said he didn't have them
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Actually in 1998 he admitted to having chemical and biological weapons. Those are the weapons that I'm refering to because every method of destroying them leaves a residue and none of this residue has been discovered in Iraq
so....the fact that there's no residue been discovered means there's no residue, but the fact that there's no WMD been discovered proves they existed and will eventually be found.Damn,that's clever.

And in case you didn't notice 1998 was a full 5 years before the invasion of Iraq.Bush insisted that there was a clear and present danger,in spite of evidence to the contrary from UN inspectors on the ground at the sites USintelligence deemed to be nost likely to hold evidence.
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Saddam had the weapons. He used those weapons. No proof of their destruction has been found. For the slower members of our audience - that means they either left the country or are located some place they'll never be found.

The vaunted (yeah - right) UN passed resolution after resolution for him to give them up. Now either you believe that piece of shit organization or you don't. From the sounds of some - you don't. Remember that the next time you use the UN to justify anything.

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No proof of their destruction has been found. For the slower members of our audience -

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For the benefit of the wilfully ignorant,I'll point you back two posts.

no proof of their destruction has been found,therefore they didn't get destroted
no proof of their existence has been found since Bozo annexed Iraq,therefore they must exist................?That's about as blatant a flip-flop as you could make.

It's crap logic that you are hiding behind and you know it.Bush is a fucking liar,get used to it and elect someone less awful.
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Are you suggesting that he never used those weapons on the Kurds or Iranians? Or are you so narrow that you think he used all his stock up on them?

Get some help, you're going to blow a gasket after Bush wins this November.













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