95 eclipse .. evo or stock 4g63 motor?

[kerupt]

hello, i need to do a engine swap on my 95 eclipse. Looking for motors to buy. I found and evo for a good price, but my mechanic said he wont do any conversions and only a straight swap. The evo will not be a straight swap correct?

should i look to find someone that can do the evo replacement, or just get a stock with low milage. is there really that much of a difference?

thanks for any help

[TurbosR4me]

The EVO 4g63 is a completely different motor than the eclipse 4g63. Hardly anything (if anything) would match up to your engine bay. Stick with a 7 or 6 bolt eclipse 4g63. Go crazy and get an EVO 16G turbo if you want JDM parts under your hood.

[LandoAWD]

The next person that uses "JDM" in this forum will be slapped.

[kerupt]

this place claims its a straight forward engine swap heres is the email from him

This is a direct swap. Its just out of the japanese EVO. Its the same exact motor in the Eclipse/Talon we had here, opposed to the higher horsepower rating, bigger turbo, and stronger bottom end. Have him call us if he has any questions.

[LandoAWD]

Depends on the EVO model. 1-3 will be a direct swap for a regular old 4g63T, the rest are just nice to look at.

[1g90gsx]

the evolution III engine comes with a bronze valve cover,16g,510 injectors and upgraded cams.compaired to the cyclone that has the different intake mani,same injectors,turbo and cams such as the us 4g63 oh but has a red valve cover that says mitsu on it.

both are direct bolt ins,not the evo VIII 4g63.

[TurbosR4me]

Are you people forgetting about street legality? Your car WILL NOT comply with USDM emission laws. Whats so bad about "JDM"? JDM JDM JDM JDM JDM JDM JDM

[kerupt]

evo doesnt comply with emission tests?

[JoeWagon]

One thing. Do you have a GST/GSX already? If not, forget about any swaps. If you have one, get a 6 bolt 4G63 and make 400whp.

[kerupt]

i have a gst. and i dont know what 400 whp means. I am annoyingly ignorant about cars and helpless sorry.

The mechanic just needs a motor he can do a hassle free swap basically.

was wondering if I should

(1) get a exact stock

(2) go through the trouble to find a mechanic that will do an evo or some other engine that requires a bit of conversions?

[JoeWagon]

The evo has nothing that we want. Get a 90-94 6 bolt motor.

[kerupt]

i was under the impression a 6 bolt didnt fit into a 95 eclipse without some modding

[JoeWagon]

It fits fine, but there are a few things you have to modify.

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/1gcasin2g.htm
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/1g2g.asp

[TurbosR4me]

It sounds like your car is at a basic mechanic shop that can only do a direct engine swap. BUT, if you are already going to pay somebody to do the swap, get a 90-92 6 bolt 4g63. Like Joe said, there are some modifications, but the engines are about 400-600$ cheaper than the 95-99 4g63's.

Call a performance shop and ask if they have done the swap. Ask for details and make sure they know what they are doing. It would be a very good investment and you will probably save a little money.