removing ignition lock on 91rs

[mike123]

ok i was wonderin if i could get a walk through on this =\
ive removed the stearing wheel and that little thing for the air bag , this car has that stupid security thing on the key , that little tablet thingy
well long story short one of the terminal wires got choped off in the stearing colum , the ignition still needs to be removed but i also need to get the car started

oh ya the lock is stuck in the on postion the accessory , like it will turn forward to start the car but i cant turn it off , i realised i kinda went into two differnt topics try to bear with me =\

[Dober89]

the little tablet thingy is the coded pelled thats part of the VATS ignition security. I dont know what exactly you have to wire to dissable it but its possible.

[89IROC&RS]

well this is a very common problem with the vats system, they just made those wires too small. what you can do, is read the resistance in ohms on that pellet, go to radioshack, get a resistor of the same ohm value, and plug it into the connector at the base of the steering column. this should allow you to start the car.

[DaMoNe6969]

to remove the ignition, after the wheel and bag are off.. Pull the small snap ring out off the wheel hub and remove the clockspring.. Take careful note how you remove it, so you can put it back in properly.. After that therel be another c-clip.. this one can be a bitch to get off.. a pair of decent snap ring plyers seems to work.. but you gotta depress the cover plate a little to loosen tension on the c-clip.. After that you should have access to your ignition lock..

If you wanna start the car first.. put the wheel back on and do what 89Iroc suggested

[mike123]

ok so i got teh lock removed and bought a new lock for a 87 non tilt cause i didnt have an extra 50 bucks, and i ghetto rigged it to teh key and i got it started started up and everything , but teh sodder fell off one side then i couldnt get it start but anyway

i was wondering if ne body knew the resistance on the pellet , i went to radio shack and this other eltronic store in my area and neither could test it for me

[89IROC&RS]

well there are 14 different values for the pellet, to prevent just any key from starting the car. so its one of 14 possible values. id take the key to a shop somewhere, and just ask a mechanic to test the resistance fr you with his multimeter. its a no brainer. and he probly wouldnt mind. especially if you thanked him with your friend jackson or something

[mike123]

theres no identifying marks on the car? how the hell am i supose to know which ignition lock to buy if i had to , i took it to another eltronic's shop they said they couldnt test it either and told me to goto a gm dealer....

[89IROC&RS]

well the thing is that all ignition locks are the same. regardless of the pellet, all the lock cylender does is place a circuit across the pellet, that connects to the VATS module. that is what has to be replaced with the correct resistance. so the VATS module reads the resistance of the pellet in the key, that has to match a master resistance pellet inside the module.

as far as finding which pellet you have, the dealership can put the key into a vats interrogator, that will tell you which code 1-14 it is, and therefore the resistance.

but seriously dude, this is not that hard, if they have two hands, and a multimeter, they can test it, its just a resistor, you measure the resistance, they dont know how to do that??????? put one terminal on one side of the pellet, and the other terminal on the other side of the pellet, and read the numbers. its quite simple.

[mike123]

eh i got tired of geting no where so i just poped the pellet out and soddered a couple wires on , its jsut chillin under my dash it work for now so fuck it

[89IROC&RS]

lmao, creative solution, never heard of that approach before