Congrats to Samuel Hubinette!

[Layla's Keeper]

Samuel Hubinette and his Team Mopar Viper have made drifting history as the first winners in SCCA Formula Drift competition. Big kudos to him, his team, and to Mopar for sponsoring him.




(pictures found at drift411.com)

[gigglesnirt]

i dunno if a viper looks that good as a drift car, kinda weird lookin

[Layla's Keeper]

I don't know if I care if it "looks good" as a drift car. The important thing is that it works well as a drift car and that Hubinette notched a victory in it.

And I'm not sure why you think it's "kinda weird lookin". It's nice and level through the corner, seems very well controlled and on line and doesn't appear to need grossly inappropriate levels of camber to stay on course. That's a damn fine drift car if you ask me.

[joebowlr21]

Viper looking good while drifting.....i think so. I know the people here that went do D-1 at Irwindale would agree. Tarzan was drifting in a Super GT viper i believe during the event......it was tight...even when he hit the wall...AHHHH

[flylwsi]

any car, rwd or other wise, looks awesome when it's got some super over steer going on...

no one has a problem with a viper doing a big sliding burnout, but if it's drifting, it's bad?


riiiiight.

kudos to dodge for chasing GM into the drift scene...

[1viadrft]

Hmmm... I wonder why he won... maybe the abscence of Tanaguchi or Kazama or any other PRO drifter wasn't there.. maybe? I am not really digging this whole Formula D thing... It's just the SCAA cashing in on the drifting scene. I know this has been discussed before and I do not mean to start a FLAME-WAR... but I have to agree it's kinda lame to see VIPERS and GTO's drifting. All domestics are jumping the bandwagon and are trying to get there RWD cars in on the mess! I long for the days when drifting was underground... in Japan! Damn you D1!

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by 1viadrft

Hmmm... I wonder why he won... maybe the abscence of Tanaguchi or Kazama or any other PRO drifter wasn't there.. maybe? I am not really digging this whole Formula D thing... It's just the SCAA cashing in on the drifting scene. I know this has been discussed before and I do not mean to start a FLAME-WAR... but I have to agree it's kinda lame to see VIPERS and GTO's drifting. All domestics are jumping the bandwagon and are trying to get there RWD cars in on the mess! I long for the days when drifting was underground... in Japan! Damn you D1!

If you've got such a problem with Domestics joining the Drift scene why don't you go out there with your touge monster and show them how it's done?

[1viadrft]

Maybe I will...

[gigglesnirt]

no i dont have a problem with domestics drifting, i just dont really think it looks that good drifting, or anything else if you ask me, the car to me is dead ugly.

[Layla's Keeper]

1Viadrft. As a moderator, an "alternate make" drifter (since I use my classic MGB GT) and as a true automotive enthusiast, I am going to politely ask you to SHUT THE FUCK UP!

You're about as dense as they come, you know that? Seriously, I don't usually have a problem with idiotic import lovers who're so wrapped up in the idea that anything and everything American is instantly inferior to its Japanese counterpart, but your arrogance and generally pathetic junior high attitude make it unbearable.

Let's take a look at the judge panel for the inaugural Formula D event.

Tarzan Yamada (a name that, if it escapes you, you're more ignorant than I thought)
Ucchi Utsumi (Lead driver for D1 team DRFT, famous for their radically chopped S15)
Seigou Yamamoto (more famous for his JX100 Chaser sponsored by Mazora, but now team driver for Falken in D1 competition)

Gee, these guys wouldn't know a damn thing about drifting. Especially Tarzan, I mean, how would he know anything about driving a Viper?

Can you even picture the fact that as drifting and Formula Drift gain popularity more of the Japanese drivers will come here? There's going to be more money in Formula Drift in 3 years then there has been in D1 in ten. Parts are going to be developed at a radically rapid rate. Manufacturers are going to continue the push towards inexpensive RWD. Jeez, we're on the threshold of acceptance by the motorsports majority and you're bitching about how "Vipers and GTO's suck. All the events should be won by twenty year old Toyota hatchbacks."

Grow up, little Mr. 300ZX, and learn to have an opinion that isn't based on stacks of comic books and videogames. Otherwise I'll just change your opinion for you so that your presence can actually be tolerated.

[-The Stig-]

... Dammnn...

[gigglesnirt]

jinkies, dont wanna get on his bad side

[2strokebloke]

I was going to make a comment about "ignorant elitest dribble" but I can see that problem has already been taken care of...

As for the Big S.H. congratulations!

[drftk1d]

It's nice to have variety in things.

Don't be car racist.

[1viadrft]

Layla's Keeper... I don't give a flying fuck who you are, who you think you are, or what what you drive... but don't curse at me! Having said that I apologize for cursing at you...

First of all... I said, "I think it's lame that Viper's and GTO's are getting into the drift scene". I did not say they sucked! THIS IS MY BIASED OPINION... but my opinion regardless. You obviously adore this whole domestic-drifting scene... and this is your opinion which I respect. Notice i did not curse at you for your beliefs? I was not aware that we could not voice our opinions on these forums... I guess everyone on AF should be banned? Everyone should be able to voice their opinion... even if they think I'm wrong. But cursing is a no-no. I was also not aware that my voicing my post was innappropiate... if... and I say IF there was a problem, YOU as the moderator should have PM'd me or even warned me. Not verbally assaulting me. Oh, did you just threaten to ban me?

Secondly... I along with many of the old-school drift-fans and drifters alike hate the fact that there is a D1GP and Formula D and media attention! This will be the death of drifting as we know it! In case you have not caught on just yet... this is also my opinion.

Why is it you always throw a tantrum when someone voices their opinion about domestic-drifting in a negative manner? That is far from being 'grown-up'... and not very MODERATOR-like. I'm sure Igor would agree?

Having spoken-up for myself I hope and trust that there will be the last time we are rude and obscene to each other?