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Old 01-13-2004, 05:15 PM   #1
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A big question Skyline vs Supra

k people i am only 14 and i am a full gear head already i mean i still have alot to know but i know a good amount I know most in my grade. k know for the question

I love the skyline and the supra BUT which 1 is better!. the supra is more arrowdynamic but the skyline is the skyline. from what i heard from skylines down under is that the supra is better stock and the skyline r34 is weaker (supra is 310 bhp with turbo) (skyline is 280 bhp with i twin turbo).

but in stock power there was a model of the R33 gtr that can own a supra easy. and in the long run (around 800-900+ hp) i hear the r34 skyline is faster basically becuase of its fancy powertrain and ecu system (gotta love that powertrain on the skyline). but i just what to know for real WHAT is better my first love was the supra but my second and bigger love was the skyline (believe it our not it was cuz of the trunk space). + i hear that the skyline r34 is bad at drifting and the 4 door skyline r34 is better in drifting.

well i love the skyline hope it wins. plz help me and fill me in, so i can be even better at cars!
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Old 01-13-2004, 06:40 PM   #2
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Re: A big question Skyline vs Supra

Given this is a Skyline forum, you should be able to anticipate what people will say. Ask this question in AF's Supra forum and you'll get totally different responses from this forum.

280 hp is not what an R34 GTR (or R33 or 32 for that matter) really has under the bonnet. The Supra is rated at 280 PS (276 HP) in Japan just like a GTR. The model sold in the US with very little different is rated at 310 HP. Go figure. Japanese power figures are lies because of the agreement to not have production models with more than 280 PS.

Either car is very good - no surprises there. Funnily enough - being a Skyline man myself - I would recommend a Skyline (remember there are plenty of other models other than just the GTR) - but a Supra fan would say a Supra.
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umm yeah i know that thee are more then the gt-r models but the gt-rs are the only ones that have the fancy powertrain thingy the gt-s only have front wheel drive. and if you could answer a nother question. if i wanted to go for speed racintg i would choose the r32 right cuz same power then their bigger and more luxury models the r33 and r34 but the r32 has less wieght to lug around but at a fraction of style am i right? and the r32 can drift better.

when u drift i hear u take of the stability controls i u do how do u take em off on the skyline do u just flick a swich our what? our do u have to take a mess load of crap of the drive train? plz anyone who knows about this plz help me answer. MUST BEAT OLDER BROTHER IN FIGHT ABOUT CARS!! PLZ
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Re: A big question Skyline vs Supra

a)AWD or RWD. not FWD
b)why drift in a GTR? A GT-S is realistic, and you Can drift in them pretty easily, but the GTR was designed for grip driving, with that "super complicated thingie" I believe we call the ATTESA system. Between the 2 cars, the GT-S Seems to be the better and much more popular choice over the supra. although both are fairly heavy compared to most drift cars, the supra, from what I hear, has much more body roll.

Why ask about stability control? Try drifting in a BMW... you can snap your neck from the kind of stability control they have... of course you're gonna take it out if you're considering drifting.

AS for the people who continually brag about the R33- it's actually almost he opposite. the R34 was designed more around the R32 b/c some purists thought the r33 came out to be kinda bloated... the r34 has the best performance stock, thanks to new tech , however, when considering I'm in the US, the R32 seems the most logical choice, comparing 28-32k to nearly 100k.

as for the fight between the titans, it seems to break even at the skyline and the supra overall. For all us US fans, the supra is the most efficient choice, in terms of price and availability and range of parts.

hope this anwers your often debated question.
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Re: A big question Skyline vs Supra

skyline r34 gtr- 320 hp

the r34 is better for racing because it is much more developed than the r32. someone here said the r32s whp was 290. you dont see as many fast r34s as r33s and r32s, because it is newer than them so it has less parts for it. and it is more expensive to modify it.

yeah of course gtrs are bad at drifting. they have all this electronic stuff on it. the gts is better at it because it is RWD, not 4WD.
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Re: Re: A big question Skyline vs Supra

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skyline r34 gtr- 320 hp

the r34 is better for racing because it is much more developed than the r32. someone here said the r32s whp was 290. you dont see as many fast r34s as r33s and r32s, because it is newer than them so it has less parts for it. and it is more expensive to modify it.

yeah of course gtrs are bad at drifting. they have all this electronic stuff on it. the gts is better at it because it is RWD, not 4WD.
Where did you come up with the assumption that there are less parts available for the R34? I'm really wanting to hear this.

As far as drifting goes no the GTR and the GTS4 don't make good options because of the drive line configuration begin 4wd. Make not relation to AWD like a Subaru or EVO, as the Skyline uses a vairiale torque split which is computer controlled instead of a pre-determined amount.
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To answer who would win between an R34 GTR and a supra I would have to think the supra would win. I'd expect the R34 to leap off the line first, with it being 4wd and all but I think the supra would catch up pretty fast with its RWD and win it in the end. Obviously the GTR has superior handling around the corners, one of the best handling cars ever from what i read, but I think the supra would be faster in the straight line. Don't really understand why, but RWD cars have always been faster in the 1/4 than 4wd's seeing as how the fastest 4wd in the world is a 10 second car only (I think its a GTR in Australia). Oh no wait, could be a wrx. Not sure.
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10 secs, the fastest. You need to do some more research

R34 turns back into RWD after the rear tires regain grip. So, it will have the lead, and should stay there.

Supras a more aerodynamic, so. It would come done to the driver, really.

I would say no clear cut winner.
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So much false info going around as the truth! You put them right!
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Hi Vincent,

Ya, I know
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Re: A big question Skyline vs Supra

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To answer who would win between an R34 GTR and a supra I would have to think the supra would win. I'd expect the R34 to leap off the line first, with it being 4wd and all but I think the supra would catch up pretty fast with its RWD and win it in the end. Obviously the GTR has superior handling around the corners, one of the best handling cars ever from what i read, but I think the supra would be faster in the straight line. Don't really understand why, but RWD cars have always been faster in the 1/4 than 4wd's seeing as how the fastest 4wd in the world is a 10 second car only (I think its a GTR in Australia). Oh no wait, could be a wrx. Not sure.
Now here we go again with someone who hasn't got a clue and feels compelled to just put shit up. This is why people get flamed. Mate you really need to do some research before you make youself look like an ass.

Currently there are two GTR's in New Zealand which have run 8's. The Croydon Wholesaler's R32 GTR which is the current WORLD record holder for DOT tyres with an 8.55 and is also Australasia's quickest 4wd car. There are a host of GTR's in Japan in the 8's as well not to mention huge number in the 9's.
In the States there's an Eagle Talon which has done a high 8 also, and in Australia Mario has done a high 8.98 pass in his GTR.

The quickest of the lot is the HKS GTR which has run numorous 7's including an unoffiical 7.64 at an unsactioned event.
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Re: Re: Re: A big question Skyline vs Supra

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...because of the drive line configuration begin 4wd. Make not relation to AWD like a Subaru or EVO, .
you taking a course in Engrish, Vince?

I know what you mean, but only because I already knew what you mean

And as for the parts... yeah, seeing as R32-34 GTRs all have an RB26DETT, it'd be pretty strange for there to be fewer parts available for the 34 And even in terms of non-engine parts, there's certainly no shortage
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you taking a course in Engrish, Vince?

I know what you mean, but only because I already knew what you mean
Funny enough I had to sit an engrish exam during my residency application for New Zealand. Guess I speak better mandran chinese :
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Re: A big question Skyline vs Supra

i heard the less parts for the r34 thing somewhere on this site.. or maybe not.. but i didnt invent the less part thing!

or maybe i read it on a magazine with the ex vi termini skyline on the cover..
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