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Old 04-23-2004, 11:07 AM
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Are Turbo Kits Better then Building it Yourself?

Will you get better performance if you put together all the turbo pieces your self (ie T03w/ GReddy Intercooler/piping) or if you buy a kit (ie GReddy kit)? thanks.

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Old 04-23-2004, 02:44 PM
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Re: Are Turbo Kits Better then Building it Yourself?

If u build your kit instead of buying one, u are able to customize what u want better. I was going to get the DRAG kit, but i didn't like a few of the pieces, ie bypass valve, no name injector controller. So i looked into GReddy, but I heard a lot of bad things about their kits. Not to mention, they are expensive and dont come with an intercooler. The only really expensive/big things are the intercooler/piping, turbo itself, manifold, and downpipe. The downpipe and charge pipes u can get made by a shop for fairly cheap. The manifold and turbo can be purchased off eBay. My friend is going to make my manifold out of 321 stainless and TIG weld it, cuz some manifolds on eBay are cheap 304 stainless w/ MIG welds that can crack under high stress
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Re: Are Turbo Kits Better then Building it Yourself?

go to www,full-race.com, check out them damn manifolds, them things are ready for war. I def agree to building your own kit, just do a little research on other peoples cars to give you a starting point for your own car.
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Re: Re: Are Turbo Kits Better then Building it Yourself?

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go to www,full-race.com, check out them damn manifolds, them things are ready for war. I def agree to building your own kit, just do a little research on other peoples cars to give you a starting point for your own car.
I agree building your own kit is the way to go. You get to choose the parts you put together and you know what your hp goals are so you can put together a kit that will fullfil that goal. Also you can take pride in that you did it and that it will be reliable (as long as you know what you are doing lol). INHO you get a much more complete kit when you go custom. Also for a lot of people researching and building a kit will enable them to learn more about how a turbo charged engine works and what it needs etc. This will enable you to take better care of the car and have the abiltiy to fix problems if they come up.
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Re: Re: Re: Are Turbo Kits Better then Building it Yourself?

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I agree building your own kit is the way to go. You get to choose the parts you put together and you know what your hp goals are so you can put together a kit that will fullfil that goal. Also you can take pride in that you did it and that it will be reliable (as long as you know what you are doing lol). INHO you get a much more complete kit when you go custom. Also for a lot of people researching and building a kit will enable them to learn more about how a turbo charged engine works and what it needs etc. This will enable you to take better care of the car and have the abiltiy to fix problems if they come up.


A lot of knowledge is gain if you do some research and also you will have a better understand about how your car runs.
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Re: Re: Are Turbo Kits Better then Building it Yourself?

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go to www,full-race.com, check out them damn manifolds, them things are ready for war. I def agree to building your own kit, just do a little research on other peoples cars to give you a starting point for your own car.
so i take it you like that site i referred you to eh?

yeah, definitely build your own custom application.. but before you start doing that.. plan out how you're going to do it, how much you're willing to spend, how stable you want your motor to be, how much hp you want to be pushing.. stuff like that. definitely do some research before you dive into something.. it will save you a bundle
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Re: Re: Re: Are Turbo Kits Better then Building it Yourself?

i totally agree with yellow itr. full race is by far the best turbo kit for hondas. and the beauty is, its not a complete it. they are basically selling you the main components that are all top quality and you go source the rest. if i ever went turbo on a honda thats where it would come from.
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ey ya'll this is a lil off the topic but what are some bad effects after putting in a custom kit that you put toghether?
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Re: Are Turbo Kits Better then Building it Yourself?

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ey ya'll this is a lil off the topic but what are some bad effects after putting in a custom kit that you put toghether?
traction issues and neck pain

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But the down side can be if you install it wrong or use it wrong then it can blow your motor really quick, but the same can be said for any prebuilt kit as well.
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I just went to full-race.com and looked at their turbo kits. They offer the kits in different stages depending on hp output. According to the site, the Stage 1 kits generates 450 hp. My question is: don't those numbers depend on the engine? For instance, you're not going to get the same amount of hp boosting a D15B3 as you would boosting an H22. Any thoughts?
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Re: Are Turbo Kits Better then Building it Yourself?

Those numbers are based on airflow. Companies give the same estimates when they talk about heads as well. At the kit's turbo's maximum output, it throws enough air to combust X ammount of fuel, which would theoretically give you Y ammount of power, so therefore the kit generates Y power. You're really not going to make that much power, that is under ideal conditions and just in theory. I'm sure there is a lot they didn't factor in, because they couldnt. They couldnt possibly know what cam/head/crank/engine anything you're going to run, but by doing the math they come up with some maximum output figure.
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That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
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