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Old 08-06-2003, 08:09 AM
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Whats the difference between N20/Turbo/Superchargers?

hey im uhh... new..

what is the difference between NOS, Turbo, Superchargers or whatever else there is...

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Old 08-06-2003, 08:32 AM
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Thats easy. They're spelled differently.
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Anyway they all give more hp to the engine by adding more combustion. The difference is that they work differently. NOS by injection, turbo by air/psi something like that, and supercharge i dont know but its something to do with the engine directly i think. Correct me if im wrong anyone. Anyway if u want better and more detailed information check out the articles that the forum has man. If us till dont get it the ur a . Just kidding pal, just ask more questions so u can get more posts.
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Old 08-06-2003, 01:19 PM
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o geeze. ok, for both of you guy's benefits, here it is. Plain and simple.

Turbos - use exhaust gases to spin a turbine which compresses intake engine air. Higher concentration of oxygen per combustion cycle yields more power. Basically it just allows you to stuff more air and fuel into each cylinder for a more powerful explosion.

Superchargers - use a pulley or chain connection directly off the engine's crankshaft (just like the alternator, power steering, A/C) to spin a compressor, which also compresses intake air like the turbo.

N2O - breaks into N2 and O2 inside the hot cylinders. Also adds more O2 per combustion cycle yielding more power. Also has added benefit of cooling the intake air, which increases density, which further increases the amount of O2 you can get into a cylinder.

Whatever Else There Is - other things can make you faster also, but no way am i going to try to explain everything out there.

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o geeze. ok, for both of you guy's benefits, here it is. Plain and simple.

Turbos - use exhaust gases to spin a turbine which compresses intake engine air. Higher concentration of oxygen per combustion cycle yields more power. Basically it just allows you to stuff more air and fuel into each cylinder for a more powerful explosion.

Superchargers - use a pulley or chain connection directly off the engine's crankshaft (just like the alternator, power steering, A/C) to spin a compressor, which also compresses intake air like the turbo.

N2O - breaks into N2 and O2 inside the hot cylinders. Also adds more O2 per combustion cycle yielding more power. Also has added benefit of cooling the intake air, which increases density, which further increases the amount of O2 you can get into a cylinder.

Whatever Else There Is - other things can make you faster also, but no way am i going to try to explain everything out there.

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Old 08-06-2003, 02:41 PM
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lol so uhh im guessing you can build an engine to use nos, turbo, and a supercharger?
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lol so uhh im guessing you can build an engine to use nos, turbo, and a supercharger?
yes but its very complicated and a waste of time....


and its called nitrous or N2O, NOS is a brand.....
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lol so uhh im guessing you can build an engine to use nos, turbo, and a supercharger?
All combinations of the two have been done (although a turbo and blower setup is expensive and pretty much useless) and combining power adders just makes it harder to tune. Why add a 50 HP nitrous kit when you can just bump up the boost a few pounds.
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All combinations of the two have been done (although a turbo and blower setup is expensive and pretty much useless) and combining power adders just makes it harder to tune. Why add a 50 HP nitrous kit when you can just bump up the boost a few pounds.

so you can spool up the turbo quicker and cool off the charge a bit would be my best guess, also why do you have a 8 gallon cell for your nitrous + 2 bottles?? i didn't even know they had fuel cell type containers for nitrous.
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so you can spool up the turbo quicker and cool off the charge a bit would be my best guess, also why do you have a 8 gallon cell for your nitrous + 2 bottles?? i didn't even know they had fuel cell type containers for nitrous.
Nitrous does next to nothing for your IAT's. If you want to cool of the charge, use an alcohol/water kit. Help spool up the turbo is a legit reason to use both, but it's pretty much useless on the street because all you do is spin, even if you use it to get going from a highway roll.

I fill the 8 gallon cell up with C16, and it directly feeds to the nitrous so that I can run pump gas in my main tank and still spray. I have 2 bottles because they keep bottle pressure MUCH longer on the street (not that I ever use nitrous on the street, that would be illegal, right? ) and I don't have to refil as often.
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ok i over looked the fact that it was filled with c16. that's a nifty idea!
but i always thought that n20 cooled off the intake charge??? and i don't really want to fuck with the water.alcohol set-ups becaue i've heard some bad things about it when not done right, and i don't know enought about it to do it right BTW i'm fixin to get a wrx and i'm not talkin about puttin a water cooler on my zc =D
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ok i over looked the fact that it was filled with c16. that's a nifty idea!
but i always thought that n20 cooled off the intake charge??? and i don't really want to fuck with the water.alcohol set-ups becaue i've heard some bad things about it when not done right, and i don't know enought about it to do it right BTW i'm fixin to get a wrx and i'm not talkin about puttin a water cooler on my zc =D
Nitrous cools of the intake charge, yeah, but if you're using it just for the cooling it's worthless. Any advantage you might gain from the cooling effect from the nitrous is automatically canceled out by needing to back off timing and add octane for the nitrous.
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