Accord VS Civic

[Hondafan96]

Ok, on the 4th my grandfather and i began arguing over which was the over all better car. I spent my afternoon with my grandfather with our hoods open comparing, contrasting, and testing to see which is the better vehicle. Let me know what u guys think, i want some pros and cons to back up my argument.

[tenguzero]

I'm curious as to which car you were arguing for? My two cents: (crosses fingers and hopes thread doesn't turn into a flame fest) Obviously, I'm partial to the Accord (since I own one ) Civic def has the weight advantage, but the Accord has more in the comfort/luxury department (since that was its original intent) Engine wise, the Civic EX IS a DOHC VTEC, while the Accord EX is an SOHC VTEC, however, the Accord's engines pack a few more ponies, and are bigger, (and we all know displacement is king ) That also, in my opinion, lends a much nicer sound on the Accord's behalf when exhaust work is done (generally much deeper then the Civic, which is good-unless, of course, you like the fart can sound) To cut this short, I go with the Accord whole heartedly- not just because it's what I own, but because, in my opinion, it just looks better as well. And there are more bragging rights involved, since EVERYBODY and their uncle's mother hooks up civic's (just compare the number of thread postings in the civic forum to that of the accord) far less people hook up Accords, making it that much more exclusive.

[Melt]

i own a civic and i like the accord better ... my mom has a 91 ex 4 door and it feels more solidly built, its faster, and more comfortable.

[BullShifter]

Overall I would pick the Accord

The civic is a better base to start building than the accords. CRX or S2K would be best.

V6 6-speed Accords now they just need to turn the engine & put the power to the back!

[loesch8102]

Plus, everybody has a damn Civic, (and Integra's, damn it!). Tuned Accords stand out in a crowd much better. And I agree as far as the "solidly built" argument. They just feel like a better made car.

[Hondafan96]

thanks guys, i was for the accord, my grandfather is just jealous because he couldn't afford the accord when he bought his car. It's all cool though as long as it's honda.

[neunan]

im all for accords but the weight thing is really getting to me. my friend with a 92 civic hatch weighs in at like 2200 lbs, im chilling at about 3000, and then my friend with a 3000GT is 3200 lbs - but his base engine is a smooth 220hp V6. accords are definitely more solidly built...thats why we weigh so much :-/ but the new coupes with the 240 hp i-VTEC V6 and 6 speed manual tranny...oohh yea. hook it up.

[Hondafan96]

I'm thinking about pulling out the back seats and changeing the front seats to drops some weight, but the problem is it's my daily driver. How can i cut out some weight.

[neunan]

the weight that will matter the most is also the most expensive: rims, tires, rotors, calipers...accessory pulleys, crankshaft pulley... that wont edge off much of your actual weight, but itll definitely boost your acceleration so you'll feel lighter. as for actually dropping weight...seats are a start but they dont really weigh much to begin with :/ neither do interior panels. you can ditch the spare tire and jack, thats a few lbs...

[tenguzero]

One thing that never ceases to amaze me when driving my car, is that, despite the weight, my Accord STILL hugs the road effortlessly- whether it's weaving around annoying truckers on the highway (you know the ones, they see you rolling up on them, and they try to make a game out of boxing you in) or hitting those unexpected sharp-turning offramps at 50 mph, I never seem to lose footing (the anti-sway bars that come in the EX probably help me a great deal) As far as losing weight, I understand there are people who have the sound dampening material removed in places, since supposedly that is one of the major weight contributors for the Accord over the Civic (there's that luxury thing I mentioned earlier) I don't think I would have it removed, though- it keeps the scream of the intake at WOT to a nice growl, and the sound of the exhaust dulled to a comfortable resonation.

[knorsk]

Originally posted by tenguzero
I'm curious as to which car you were arguing for? My two cents: (crosses fingers and hopes thread doesn't turn into a flame fest) Obviously, I'm partial to the Accord (since I own one ) Civic def has the weight advantage, but the Accord has more in the comfort/luxury department (since that was its original intent) Engine wise, the Civic EX IS a DOHC VTEC, while the Accord EX is an SOHC VTEC, however, the Accord's engines pack a few more ponies, and are bigger, (and we all know displacement is king ) That also, in my opinion, lends a much nicer sound on the Accord's behalf when exhaust work is done (generally much deeper then the Civic, which is good-unless, of course, you like the fart can sound) To cut this short, I go with the Accord whole heartedly- not just because it's what I own, but because, in my opinion, it just looks better as well. And there are more bragging rights involved, since EVERYBODY and their uncle's mother hooks up civic's (just compare the number of thread postings in the civic forum to that of the accord) far less people hook up Accords, making it that much more exclusive.

I don't know about the other gens, but in 1994-1997 the Accord EX is DOCH too. The only thing that sucks about it is that it only packs 145 hp instead of 135 hp. This makes the Accord EX just as slow as the Accord LX/DX because of the added features they put on...sunroof,power crap,and A/C.

Handling goes to the Accords. The civics take the cake for being much lighter. Civic Si's are nice, but the power is in the accords. I mean some of the new civics are only around 105 ponies. Civics get better gas mileage. Accords are more spacious. Civics look kind of cheap where as the accord is still cheap, but it looks like a poor mans BMW. All in all I'd trade my Accord for two beater Caprice Classics because they are funny as shit. 175 hp V8 trying to push around 4200lbs.

[tenguzero]

175hp? In a V8? God help the driver of one of those things when they're trying to "talk up" their ride "Yeah, I'm runnin a V8 under the hood, that baby pumps out 175 ponies man!!"" HAHA!!!

http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/g...hgenspecs.html

You can research the specs in more detail, unfortunately, even the 5th gen Accord's are SOHC- Honda designed them like that so they would provide a smoother ride (not as noticeable when the VTEC kicks in) This means, since there's only one cam, VTEC only operates on the intake valve, not both like in the Civic EX's DOHC VTEC.

I agree wholeheartedly with your point about Honda's lack of hp on the F22b engine- the thing has HUGE potential, I guess the under-utilization is just something to deal with (or get an H22 ) I read somewhere once, and I'm roughly quoting the person: "Honda must have figured that 145 horses is more than adequate for grocery store runs" But that's what makes owning an Accord more exclusive- when you DO start to work 'em over, you find alot of untapped potential.

[Options]

the Civic EX IS a DOHC VTEC, while the Accord EX is an SOHC VTEC

Nope the civic ex is SOHC VTEC, personally i like the civic better, because of course i own one , but i do like the accords there great sleeper cars. And not many people own em, for auto xing or dragging, most people have em just for simple DD's, but when i do see one for race its damn nice even though they are few and far between around here.

[knorsk]

Damn I guess the Accords are SOHC...I just made the assumption that it was DOHC because the EX has a different valve cover than the LX/DX I guess because it's Multi port or whatever. My bad.

[tenguzero]

Nope the civic ex is SOHC VTEC, personally i like the civic better, because of course i own one , but i do like the accords there great sleeper cars. And not many people own em, for auto xing or dragging, most people have em just for simple DD's, but when i do see one for race its damn nice even though they are few and far between around here.

Alrighty, my turn to chime in... Damn, I guess the Civics are SOHC Everyone's learning a little something here today!! HAHA!!. If I'm not mistaken, the SiR and TypeR Civics are DOHC, correct?