b18b swap help!!

[freezr]

i have a 95 b18b ls motor im putting in my 95 civic does anyone know were i can get a swap guide cuz me and a friend r doin it and i want soemthing to refence to incase of any problems i might run into??

[GSteg]

do you have a helms manual for the engine and the car? u might want it as a reference when you take the engine out and putting it back in.

[freezr]

i have that i was lookign for a guide form someone or shop that did it aready

[SmoovSol]

u gonna be pretty upset with tha resultz of that swap. I can take out my buddy's 93 hb si wit an Ls, his only mods are i/h though. I dislike that engine. It has no revving ability, he can catch me in 4th gear though. 1-3 is murder to him. lol he throwz 4th when i throw 3rd. gotta love vtec, and for 1500.00 i can purchase the gude head package and gain 52-54 hp. Lol im gonna be faster then a gsr powered hb. But the best will be when i pop my hood and they see a n/a sohc. Do urself a favor and dont think of converting the ls/vtec i could explain why but it would take too long. save for a gsr or h22... Just tryin to save u the anger my friend ray has now......

[freezr]

considering i got the whole engine with a si tranny or only 350$ so im goin ls and gunna turbo it im not goin lsvtec and your friend has a ls tranny probley there gears suck thats y i got the si trasnny cuz i had a choice of either one

[SmoovSol]

what ? 350? cable ls? wat year ls?

[freezr]

its a 97 20,000 miles on it ls hydro tranny and its not stolen i have all papaers and everythgin

[SmoovSol]

that is quite amazing, a friend sell it to you? anyway it will probably cost about 700.00 to put in well thatz what it costz around here. then i/h/e u will want and most likely a new clutch when swapping in an engine, by the time ur done you will have wished u had a gsr, i suggest u sell it for 1500.00 and either get a bullfrog head for the sohc or save for a b16 or gsr, just my opinion though. hope you enjoy whatever decision you decide...

[SCStreetRacer]

i hate to tell you but a gude head won't make the power that they claim. i'd take a B18B any day over a SOHC w/ gude head. You should be able to get mid-low 15's with a B18b......easyily into the 14's w/ a VTEC head. your friend w/ the B18B swap doesn't know how to drive, or either his engine is tuned all wrong.

[SmoovSol]

lol, gude wont give me above 49hp on there head package, are u on crack? and with that head package and i/h/e they guarentee 14.8's or better wit a good driver, u dont know what ur talkin bout. you ever seen an Ls in action? Not very fast, off the line he takes me, im talkin bout from a rollin start he cant touch me. His engine is tuned properly but when his engine stops making power at 6500rpm mine is still kickin, go ahead believe wat you will. That is an extremely nice deal on that ls motor and i hope u enjoy it...

[LittleG112]

hey...how fast is a LS swap into a hatch anyways? high 15's? I'm thinking about putting my GSR back into my civic coupe. I pulled it out when it was 13,XXX miles on it...i was thinking about selling it because the whole racing scene was costing me big bucks...and also im a college student so im broke. If anyone is interested, i might sell it if the price is right. Ok, here it goes...

-2001 Integra GSR motor
-comes complete with everything you need to swap into 92-95 civic, 94-01 integra
-comes with two ECUs.. stock '94 and stock '01 ecu ('01 is useless if you have OBDII car)
-B16 A/C bracket (if you want to retain Air Conditioning)
-I dont recommend racing it until it is broken in at least 25,000 miles.
-Bone stock...no upgrades what so ever
-low miles...currently has 13,XXX miles...had 10,XXX when it was bought

um... that's all i could think of right now. It's currently in my Garage wrapped in plastic sheets. Everything is 2001 except for the distributor which is a '97. I live in the central California area and contact me through Email if interested. My email is [email protected]. I bought it through Method Motorworks here in Central Cali...so it's legit. It's not going to beat a porshe or ferarri...but in a coupe, it'll pull Integras and preludes all day long. I didnt get a chance to go time my car but estimate it should hit high 14's-low 15's. This is a VERY healthy motor and had been raced two or three times only. Once in my friends 92 hatch DX with a clutch, ECU, and Nitto 555 tires...hitting 13.7. I shit you not. I had to take out the motor because i had to smog my car (i only had it in my car for 2 months) and was reluctant to put it back in because it cost money (changing cat-convertor, swapping, etc). So, enough preaching.. hollar if you're interested.

[PWMAN]

Originally posted by freezr
considering i got the whole engine with a si tranny or only 350$ so im goin ls and gunna turbo it im not goin lsvtec and your friend has a ls tranny probley there gears suck thats y i got the si trasnny cuz i had a choice of either one

Why did you get the SI tranny if you're going turbo? Longer gears are better for turbo, shorter are better for N/A.
Anyway, the B18B1 is the best stock engine for turbo. It can be boosted 12 PSI on stock internals, and also because of it's low compression it will not detonate with pump gas. What you need is a good turbo kit, FMU, 3'' exhaust, ignition upgrades, fuel upgrades, and run 12 PSI you should get into the 13's if you are a good driver. Also you need good clutch, and LSD if you can afford it.
As for the B18B1 only making power to 6500, thats BS. I drove my mom's COMPLETELY stock 2000 LS and I shifted at 7K and it was still puling strong. I just didn't want to take it to the fuel cutoff at 7200. So with intake, and exhaust upgrades, I would see no problem with an LS engine making plenty of power at high RPMS like 7K. Peak HP on a stock LS is 6300, so making mods raises this peak because things are more free flowing.
And just because a car only revs to a certain RPM doesn't mean it's slower. My 87 Daytona only revs to about 5800 RPM, and has super high gearing and is only rated at 4 more HP(but weighs more) than an LS teg but will walk all over one.

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally posted by PWMAN


Why did you get the SI tranny if you're going turbo? Longer gears are better for turbo, shorter are better for N/A.
Anyway, the B18B1 is the best stock engine for turbo. It can be boosted 12 PSI on stock internals, and also because of it's low compression it will not detonate with pump gas. What you need is a good turbo kit, FMU, 3'' exhaust, ignition upgrades, fuel upgrades, and run 12 PSI you should get into the 13's if you are a good driver. Also you need good clutch, and LSD if you can afford it.
As for the B18B1 only making power to 6500, thats BS. I drove my mom's COMPLETELY stock 2000 LS and I shifted at 7K and it was still puling strong. I just didn't want to take it to the fuel cutoff at 7200. So with intake, and exhaust upgrades, I would see no problem with an LS engine making plenty of power at high RPMS like 7K. Peak HP on a stock LS is 6300, so making mods raises this peak because things are more free flowing.
And just because a car only revs to a certain RPM doesn't mean it's slower. My 87 Daytona only revs to about 5800 RPM, and has super high gearing and is only rated at 4 more HP(but weighs more) than an LS teg but will walk all over one.

The LS Tranny is prefectly suited for FI apps (turbo) becuase of the longer gearing, which keeps the turbo spooling of course through the longer gear, i.e, less lag. Now it is not the ideal Tranny for N/A, fr that, shorter gears are better, i.e, GSR, Type-R, etc. But for turbo, the LS tranny is the best of the bunch there. I know of Turbo GSR's that have dumped the GSR tranny for an LS tranny once they got the motor built and boosted to all hell. If you were planning on keepin the LS n/a, I can see you wanting a different B-series tranny with shorter gears. If you are going to Turbo it, however, it doesn't make sense. You'd be better off with the LS tranny because of the longer gears once turbo'd, and it's just more money to put it in later. BTW, I have a complete 97 B18B1 swap in my civic myself.

[PWMAN]

Originally posted by eckoman_pdx

BTW, I have a complete 97 B18B1 swap in my civic myself.

I take it you plan to turbo?
Thanks for your support of my opinion. I hate when people argue about shorter gears being better no matter what. There's plenty of proof otherwise. Look at factory turbo cars, IE - Eclipse/talon/laser, stealth/VR-4, and I know my Dodge Daytona turbo has long gearing.

[eckoman_pdx]

Your welcome, in regards tpo supporting your opinion. Yeah, I plan to Turbo it. I plan to build it up, internals, close the deck, etc, and turbo it up. I had a thread going trying to figure out weather to leave it a LS or LS/Vtec it (still turbo'd). I'm thinkin against the LS/Vtec. Can't see to get any realible info on it. And as you know, the LS handle's boost well as is, so why mess with it like that.