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Old 07-17-2004, 08:11 AM   #1
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Everyone paying MSRP for Scions?

I went to one Toyota dealership who will not budge on the MSRP (sticker price). The dealer also said I will NOT find a dealer who will come off the sticker price. Just wondering if anyone has had any luck saving some money. If this is true that I have to pay MSRP I'm going to try and get the ($500) destination charge reduced.

Thanks for any comments!!

PS <> I'm looking to get an Xa (only option I want are Auto / floor mats)
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Old 07-18-2004, 12:29 AM   #2
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Re: Everyone paying MSRP for Scions?

Most likely, yes. I've not heard of any discounts off the Monroney. What I'd really like to know before buying is whether the dealer accessories are really negotiable - I would bet they are if you get a nice dealer -- specifically the high margin items like fog lights, etc. (My bet for you is that the destination charge is just as firm - just make sure that you only pay the sticker and no additional dealer fees or crap like fabric protector, etc.)

I just don't want to option it up and pay $18,000 for a $12,000 car.
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Old 07-18-2004, 03:10 AM   #3
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Re: Everyone paying MSRP for Scions?

Scion is pretty solid on the MSRP - they don't go up or down much at all. Thankfully, the prices are pretty damn low to begin with.
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Old 07-18-2004, 09:36 AM   #4
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Re: Re: Everyone paying MSRP for Scions?

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Most likely, yes. I've not heard of any discounts off the Monroney. What I'd really like to know before buying is whether the dealer accessories are really negotiable - I would bet they are if you get a nice dealer -- specifically the high margin items like fog lights, etc. (My bet for you is that the destination charge is just as firm - just make sure that you only pay the sticker and no additional dealer fees or crap like fabric protector, etc.)

I just don't want to option it up and pay $18,000 for a $12,000 car.
I've been reading on different forums and there doesn't seem to be any room for bargaining off the sticker price. I sure hope the accessories are negotiable. They're already making $700 on the sale alone, not including the radiculos destination charge, so I do not see why you can't get accessories at cost or just above......
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Old 07-19-2004, 08:27 PM   #5
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i duno about u guys but a few of my friends got the scions for only a few hundred higher than the msrp.. and thats because they added accessories.. my friend that works at the toyota dealership even says u add what you want and u buy it..
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Re: Everyone paying MSRP for Scions?

dealer are not allowed to markup or lower the msrp or they will get their scion liscense revoked...that's what a dealer told me
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Re: Everyone paying MSRP for Scions?

I work at Toyota Dealer and what ya'll said is true on Scions...what the sticker says is what its gon cost you! If the salesperson is nice or whatever you might get $100 or $200 off but I doubt it! But yea thank god they are cheap!
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Re: Re: Everyone paying MSRP for Scions?

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dealer are not allowed to markup or lower the msrp or they will get their scion liscense revoked...that's what a dealer told me
True. But the dealer can cut you a check for any amount to reduce the price. One local dealer was going to cut me a $250 check because I refuse to pay $298 for document fees. I ended up going to Lake City, FL where the doc. fees are zero
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The dealer who said they'd lose their Scion license if they sold above or below MSRP was lying.

The problem is from invoice to full sticker price there's only about $1000 in profit in the car. There's simply not enough room to negotiate and make money.

It may not be such a great deal price wise to buy the accessories from them. What they do is buy them from a manufacturer and marking it up over retail. You can buy all of the products (except the actual TRD stuff) over the counter for MUCH less.

However, the nice thing about buying the accessories from your local dealer is you can include them in the financing. Sure, you may pay a little more but you don't have to front the money.

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Documentation Fee

Yep Scion only sells based on MSRP, what they don't tell you is they set the "Documentation Fee" Looking at Different Dealers sites I found documentation fees from $95 to $599. Also some dealers try to really pile on pretty worthless but "high profit" options, like paint "sealant" and window engraving, etc. I've looked at different dealers, one had 2 options and a $599 doc fee added jumping the price of the car $1500. When I asked if they had any vehicles without the paint "sealant" option they said all their cars get it. I let them know I would go to another dealer for my car. Suddenly, they wanted to deal. I kept walking.
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Pure Pricing

The Scion website calls is pure pricing. Although the dealer didn't tell me much about it, he said that Toyota is really hardcore about the Scion licenses. I had to go on the website at the dealer and "build" the car. They said that if they weren't having customers do this that the Scion license would be revoked.
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my brother works at toyota and sells the scion.
they have a no haggle rule.
like the scion xa,
it cost $12,480 (manual)
the dealer pays alittle more than $11,000
for the car.
they don't make much money off the car.
they don't raise or lower the price.
their money maker is the hope you'll pay extra
for add-ons.
it's known that a few dealerships around the country
to raise the price,
but the ones who were caught
have gotton in trouble.
all you pay is add-ons and tax, tags, delivery.
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Re: Everyone paying MSRP for Scions?

i went to three different dealerships looking for a better price on my trade in, finally found one that gave me $600 more, thats the only budge they'll make....
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Old 03-15-2005, 12:14 AM   #15
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Re: Everyone paying MSRP for Scions?

i found out alot of people got their tc's for 18k+ im not sure why, they dont even add alot of options, i think the dealer is markin up the price w/o letting people know, my friend is getting me a tc for $17k out the door, but i gotta wait, no $ to buy it yet
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