Aem V2

[exman98]

here soon i am looking at upgrading to a AEM V2 Air Induction Systems .
is this really worth the price or would i be better off going with a custom one.
this would be on a D16Y8

[Killa_CRX]

Originally Posted by exman98

here soon i am looking at upgrading to a AEM V2 Air Induction Systems .
is this really worth the price or would i be better off going with a custom one.
this would be on a D16Y8

A CAI is a CAI is a CAI... the V2 is not worth the extra cost in my opinion.
If you want to do good, just get you a universal CAI off ebay or something, and pick up a K&N or Fram Air Hog filter for it.... and if you want you can fit the AEM bypass filter on it also...

But all that is probably cheaper than the outragious price they want for the AEM V2's and just as effective.

[AudioGuy93DelSol]

IMO If you go with an Ebay intake, I'd suggest painting it with some ceramic based paint because the ebay intakes are just metal pipes, and they get very, very hot.

[Killa_CRX]

Originally Posted by AudioGuy93DelSol

IMO If you go with an Ebay intake, I'd suggest painting it with some ceramic based paint because the ebay intakes are just metal pipes, and they get very, very hot.

The piping heats up from the inside out, not because of the heat in the engine bay. Heat friction from the moving air inside the tube. All of them get hot.

[Blister]

Originally Posted by Killa_CRX

The piping heats up from the inside out, not because of the heat in the engine bay. Heat friction from the moving air inside the tube. All of them get hot.

What the hell are you talking about!?!?!? That has to be the funniest crock of shit I've ever heard in my life!!!!
"No it's not the 250º engine 3 inches away heating it up, it's the friction from the cold air coming in"

Exman, get an Ebay intake and throw a K&N filter on it, unless you have anal cops in your area. AEM intakes are $150 compared to $30 ones off Evilbay because AEM spent the money to get their products CARB approved by government emissions testing, making them totally legal to have on your car. If that piece of mind is worth it to you, buy the legal one.

[Killa_CRX]

Originally Posted by Blister

What the hell are you talking about!?!?!? That has to be the funniest crock of shit I've ever heard in my life!!!!
"No it's not the 250º engine 3 inches away heating it up, it's the friction from the cold air coming in"

Have you ever opened your hood? There's a little bit more than 3" between the CAI intake tube and the engine... like I said, a hot intake tube comes from friction of the air passing through it... the intake manifold itself is the only thing that really catches any heat off the engine, since it's directly connected, metal to metal.
Don't think I'm right, you go get an infra-red camera and watch your engine heat up.

That one intake tube would get hotter than another is the crock of shit.

[Blister]

omfg you're an idiot.. You really think that moving air causes heat? There is no friction, air is a gas not a solid. I can't stand it when morons like you get on here and preach some totally bogus theory they made up in their head on the spot. The intake is connected to the manifold, and they're all hot. The intake gets hot because everything under the hood is hot. It's just like starting a fire in your living room, the entire room gets warm instead of just the wood. I can't believe this is even an argument, it's 3rd grade common sense!

[unknownluder69]

Originally Posted by Blister

What the hell are you talking about!?!?!? That has to be the funniest crock of shit I've ever heard in my life!!!!
"No it's not the 250º engine 3 inches away heating it up, it's the friction from the cold air coming in"

Exman, get an Ebay intake and throw a K&N filter on it, unless you have anal cops in your area. AEM intakes are $150 compared to $30 ones off Evilbay because AEM spent the money to get their products CARB approved by government emissions testing, making them totally legal to have on your car. If that piece of mind is worth it to you, buy the legal one.

you might not wanna say shit about cops b/c his dad is one and he's one coolass mother f'er. and to answer the question they're right the V2 will do the same thing as my AEM CAI but will cost u a lot more. spend that money on a ECU tuner or VTEC control.

[exman98]

children, childern. lets settle down.
right now i have a short ram intake. i was just lookin for the real thing now that i will have more money.

[Blister]

Originally Posted by unknownluder69

you might not wanna say shit about cops b/c his dad is one and he's one coolass mother f'er.

What??? I didn't say anything about cops you dumb retard, I was just saying the intake is legal to have on the car because of a sticker, but it does the same exact thing as any other Ebay pipe, and if a cop wants to he could impound the car because technically they are illegal. Damn you little kids are touchy about shit..

[exman98]

hey, Blister
first off thanks for your advice (and same for everyone els)
but lets not shoot every one for little things.


soooo...
anyone els have input on the CAI

[Plastic_Fork]

Originally Posted by Blister

omfg you're an idiot.. You really think that moving air causes heat? There is no friction, air is a gas not a solid. I can't stand it when morons like you get on here and preach some totally bogus theory they made up in their head on the spot. The intake is connected to the manifold, and they're all hot. The intake gets hot because everything under the hood is hot. It's just like starting a fire in your living room, the entire room gets warm instead of just the wood. I can't believe this is even an argument, it's 3rd grade common sense!

Blister -
Killa_CRX is correct. The intake tube absorbs minor heat from the motor, but the majority of the heat is generated from the friction of the moving air inside the intake pipe. This is not a "bogus theory", this is basic physics. Rub your hands together. Feel that? Heat. That's friction. When air molecules are compressed, forced into higher velocities, and are excited they build up energy that gives off heat as a byproduct which in turn is absorbed by the intake tube. This can been seen by the high temperatures aircraft endure at high speeds flying through your so-called "no friction gases". Same principle - this is known as "air friction". Maybe they didn't teach you physics in 3rd grade? If you decide to take physics when you enter college, you'll understand thermal dynamics.

exman98 -
A CAI produced by a company such as AEM will produce better results as the CAI is tuned and designed specifically to your application. A basic intake tube from eBay can suffice, and the difference in performance shouldn't be too large. I would recommend a decent filter, however, such as K&N. I do recommend you coat the outside of the tube with a ceramic-based paint like AudioGuy93DelSol suggested. Not so much to keep heat down in the engine bay as to help protect yourself from burns should you have need to access the piping while the engine had been running for a while.

I agree with Killa_CRX that the V2 really isn't worth the extra money. You'll see little difference between the V2 and a regular CAI.

[Blister]

Originally Posted by Plastic_Fork

When air molecules are compressed, forced into higher velocities, and are excited they build up energy that gives off heat as a byproduct which in turn is absorbed by the intake tube. This can been seen by the high temperatures aircraft endure at high speeds flying through your so-called "no friction gases". Same principle.

I totally agree, but only on a turbocharged application. On a stock grocery-getter with a metal pipe sticking off it? No.

[Plastic_Fork]

Originally Posted by Blister

I totally agree, but only on a turbocharged application. On a stock grocery-getter with a metal pipe sticking off it? No.

The pipe will still absorb marginal heat due to air friction and ambient engine bay temperatures. The piping of a boosted application will far exceed that of a traditional intake, but take into account the fact that a boosted application not only has increased air velocity but the air is also compressed, which stores a lot more energy. A turbo application also recycles hot exhaust gases which contribute to the piping temperature (intercooler notwithstanding).

The traditional intake will still be hot to the touch if not covered with some form of heat resistantance. I have an AEM CAI on my B16A, and even with the outside and inside being ceramic coated the piping is still quite warm to the touch. His engine is a SOHC VTEC and doesn't injest as much air as my motor, so it's natural to assume his intake temperatures might be lower. But it's only a suggestion that he coats it. The choice is ultimately his.

A basic eBay pipe will suffice almost as good as a name brand, but most lack any form of heat protection for the owner as well as a CARB exempt decal. The decal is only necessary if where you live has emissions standards that require one to keep the modification legal.

[AudioGuy93DelSol]

My God, I started a war.