Wheel wells, air bag suspension & more!

[sparq]

SORRY FOR THE REPOST, I have this in Technical as well... forgot all about this forum

Ok, so if someone says to you "The mounting points for the suspension are starting to weaken ~ and if you hit a severse bump there is risk of the suspension failing" what does that mean to you? If I recall Hondas (hahaha I may be wrong) but their suspension bits mounts INTO the wheel wells yes? So if these parts were starting to get a little rusty... would it be hard to just cut the wheel wells out ~ use them as a "mold" ~ bang out some new metal and reweld back in place... will this solve the problem? The car we are talking about is an 88 civic for the record.

Also as a side note, I was thinking about going hydro or air bag suspension ~ no not to bounce around like the mexicans, (not to be racist...) but in my partment complex to get in or out there is a HUGE rain gutter and I know even with probably JUST a kit, I might scrape, let alone with a 3" drop... so I was looking to get it so I could raise the car up over this and other obstacles (speed bumps) and keep the car in as prestine condition as possible Ok, so the question, since im replacing the wheel wells... should I go ahead and maybe make them a little bigger to fit the parts in? I hear hondas dont have all that much room up front (except for the gay piston style air suspension up front) I want real bags, or hydros... bags is prefered since I live in NY (cold weather... figured it cant be too well for a liquid... hehehe) So im gonna stop rambling, but guys please answer ASAP! Thanks...

[Dezoris]

Well, mounting points could mean many things.
Your shock is connected to your shock tower front and rear, that is one point.

The shocks in the rear connect to the control arms which connect to the trailing arms and sub frame.
The rear subframe can sometimes pull away from the frame at the welds.

Your half shafts are connected the the wheel hubs in the front, and the upper A arms are connected to the ball jount, to the frame see these pics



AT the top of the second pic you can see there is the arm connected to the frame, I think that is what you may be referring to.

There could be many mounting spots, is there creaking from the frame, from any of these areas? If so it can easily be strengthened by a body shop.

As far as Adjustable/hydrolic shocks they are expensive, controlled by the inside of your car, such as penske race shocks.
Or if you are just talking a straight like hydrolic system, go here or email this guy.
http://www.tuckintoyz.com
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I know these people personally and he knows everything about bags and hydrolics, whether it be a crazy jumpin car or what you are talking about, just tell them Dezoris sent you.

[Racing Rice]

You can forget getting real bags to work.. You will have a hell of a time getting them to fit, thats why they use the airrod. Hydros will work fine. The winter wont bother them just make them a little slower since it uses the same oil that you put in your car. The thing about Hydros are, they are messy, and you are upping your risk of fire from all the batteries. You could just run a one pump setup with 4 dumps just to get you off the ground, and you could run it off you car battery if you dont hit the switchs to much. If you do, youll be sitting on the side of the road. Itd be about you cheapest bet tho. Just run one switch to lift and dump.

[Dezoris]

Originally posted by Racing Rice
You can forget getting real bags to work.. You will have a hell of a time getting them to fit, thats why they use the airrod. Hydros will work fine. The winter wont bother them just make them a little slower since it uses the same oil that you put in your car. The thing about Hydros are, they are messy, and you are upping your risk of fire from all the batteries. You could just run a one pump setup with 4 dumps just to get you off the ground, and you could run it off you car battery if you dont hit the switchs to much. If you do, youll be sitting on the side of the road. Itd be about you cheapest bet tho. Just run one switch to lift and dump.

sorry, I don't know shit about, that stuff

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by Dezoris

sorry, I don't know shit about, that stuff

Thats what Im here for...

I was huge into lowriders, before I got into imports, I have a Nissan Truck with a 3 pump setup on it right now still

[Dezoris]

cool, I am down with that! see my PM yo

[Racing Rice]

Sparq: One more thing I forgot... IF you are worried about it riding to rough with hydraulics, you can install accumulators into the hydraulic lines which act as a reservoir, when you hit a bump itll push the oil into the accumulator then back out again. Id suggest this for a car you have to drive often.

Reds Hydraulics also makes Cylinders that bolt right into hondas.

Reds Hydraulics