Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online!
Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! 
-
Latest | 0 Rplys

Stop Feeding Overpriced Junk to Your Dogs!

GET HEALTHY AFFORDABLE DOG FOOD
DEVELOPED BY THE AUTOMOTIVEFORUMS.COM FOUNDER & THE TOP AMERICAN BULLDOG BREEDER IN THE WORLD THROUGH DECADES OF EXPERIENCE. WE KNOW DOGS.
CONSUMED BY HUNDREDS OF GRAND FUTURE AMERICAN BULLDOGS FOR YEARS.
NOW AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR THE FIRST TIME
PROPER NUTRITION FOR ALL BREEDS & AGES
TRY GRAND FUTURE AIR DRIED BEEF DOG FOOD
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Mazda > General Discussion
Register FAQ Community Arcade Calendar
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Email this Page Email this Page | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-11-2001, 07:17 PM   #1
Koran
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: uniondale, New York
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Torque

What is torque in english not mechanic lingo. Give me an example simplify it PLEASE???
__________________
Mazda
Koran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2001, 11:03 PM   #2
Rich
Never Fear, Rich is here!
 
Rich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Thunder Bay
Posts: 2,663
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to Rich
This is the best I could find that is kind of in easy-to-understand terms. This will only make sense if you are familiar with tools and can understand this scenerio.


Torque
Imagine that you have a big socket wrench with a 2-foot-long handle on it, and you apply 50 pounds of force to that 2-foot handle. What you are doing is applying a torque, or turning force, of 100 pound-feet (50 pounds to a 2-foot-long handle) to the bolt. You could get the same 100 pound-feet of torque by applying 1 pound of force to the end of a 100-foot handle or 100 pounds of force to a 1-foot handle.
Similarly, if you attach a shaft to an engine, the engine can apply torque to the shaft. A dynamometer measures this torque. You can easily convert torque to horsepower by multiplying torque by rpm/5,252.


Here is the dictionary definition of Torque: (this part probably wont help ya)

Torque, in engineering and mechanics, a twisting effort applied to an object that tends to make the object turn about its axis of rotation. The magnitude of a torque is equal to the magnitude of the applied force multiplied by the distance between the object's axis of rotation and the point where the force is applied. In many ways, torque is the rotational analogue to force. Just as a force applied to an object tends to change the linear rate of motion of the object, a torque applied to an object tends to change the object's rate of rotational motion.

Hope Some Of This Helps
__________________
My Wheels
15' Kia Soul SX 2.0L
13' GMC 1500 P/U 5.3L
Rich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2001, 02:34 AM   #3
Koran
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: uniondale, New York
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So is it good to have more torque or less torque and how would you apply it to horsepower and speed if it affects it???
__________________
Mazda
Koran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2001, 11:45 AM   #4
Rich
Never Fear, Rich is here!
 
Rich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Thunder Bay
Posts: 2,663
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to Rich
If I were you Id PM a mod and get him/her to move this thread to Cars In General - Engineering / Technical.

Im not too good at this stuff, but I do know that there are lots of ppl that will not look here, and there are many ppl on AF that would be able to answer this better than me.

For an answer, id say that it depends on what you are trying to do with the vehicle, but more torque is good, imo

Good Luck. If you need help with PM'ing a mod, post again, or IM me on AIM, or message me on MSN.
__________________
My Wheels
15' Kia Soul SX 2.0L
13' GMC 1500 P/U 5.3L
Rich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2001, 02:14 PM   #5
Tireburner
AF Enthusiast
 
Tireburner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 553
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Jack one of the wheels of your car off the ground.

grab the center cap on the hub with both hands and try and spin the tire. This is what it feels like to have the torque of a 4 cyl motor

Now grab the tire and spin it. This is what it is like to have the torqe of an 8 cyl motor.

More torque is better.
Tireburner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2001, 03:10 PM   #6
Rich
Never Fear, Rich is here!
 
Rich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Thunder Bay
Posts: 2,663
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to Rich
Quote:
Originally posted by Tireburner


More torque is better.
This is not always true, depending on the type of driving you have to do.
__________________
My Wheels
15' Kia Soul SX 2.0L
13' GMC 1500 P/U 5.3L
Rich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2001, 03:16 PM   #7
Tireburner
AF Enthusiast
 
Tireburner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 553
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Hummerman:

What application are you thinking of?
Tireburner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2001, 03:25 PM   #8
Rich
Never Fear, Rich is here!
 
Rich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Thunder Bay
Posts: 2,663
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to Rich
You dont want torque for Winter Driving. More torque = more snow being tossed around meaning more ruts and more chance to get stuck.

Sorry if this was off-topic. I kinda forgot what this thread was about.

If this was not relevent, then say so and I will shut my trap.
__________________
My Wheels
15' Kia Soul SX 2.0L
13' GMC 1500 P/U 5.3L
Rich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2001, 03:40 PM   #9
Tireburner
AF Enthusiast
 
Tireburner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 553
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
No, you are on subject sort of.

I agree with your statement, but any vehicle that's improperly geared could have a problem in the snow. (or blow sand). Driving capabilities go a long way too.

Hopefully no one will build a motor for street use with 500 ft lbs of torque at idle... that could be a problem.
Tireburner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2001, 04:06 PM   #10
Rich
Never Fear, Rich is here!
 
Rich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Thunder Bay
Posts: 2,663
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to Rich
Quote:
Originally posted by Tireburner
No, you are on subject sort of.

I agree with your statement, but any vehicle that's improperly geared could have a problem in the snow. (or blow sand). Driving capabilities go a long way too.

Hopefully no one will build a motor for street use with 500 ft lbs of torque at idle... that could be a problem.
Very True. Back on the original topic, you want as much torque as your engine can make, now whether you can get it the wheels is a different story.

So, Koran...is there anything else you need to know about torque? Torque affects alot of things, including acceleration and overall "feel" of the power. Its hard to say just how much adding more torque to a specific vehicle will affect it, due to transmission / differential gearing.
__________________
My Wheels
15' Kia Soul SX 2.0L
13' GMC 1500 P/U 5.3L
Rich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2002, 08:38 AM   #11
Jimbo_Jones
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 143
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
there is already a thread in 'cars and general' to answer this question, i forget what it is, but if you have a look around in der you should find it...
__________________
3rd Gear Burnouts... Oh Yeah!
Jimbo_Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2003, 09:21 PM   #12
blazed on haze :\
AF Regular
 
blazed on haze :\'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: sydney
Posts: 87
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally posted by Rich
This is the best I could find that is kind of in easy-to-understand terms. This will only make sense if you are familiar with tools and can understand this scenerio.


Torque
Imagine that you have a big socket wrench with a 2-foot-long handle on it, and you apply 50 pounds of force to that 2-foot handle. What you are doing is applying a torque, or turning force, of 100 pound-feet (50 pounds to a 2-foot-long handle) to the bolt. You could get the same 100 pound-feet of torque by applying 1 pound of force to the end of a 100-foot handle or 100 pounds of force to a 1-foot handle.
Similarly, if you attach a shaft to an engine, the engine can apply torque to the shaft. A dynamometer measures this torque. You can easily convert torque to horsepower by multiplying torque by rpm/5,252.


Here is the dictionary definition of Torque: (this part probably wont help ya)

Torque, in engineering and mechanics, a twisting effort applied to an object that tends to make the object turn about its axis of rotation. The magnitude of a torque is equal to the magnitude of the applied force multiplied by the distance between the object's axis of rotation and the point where the force is applied. In many ways, torque is the rotational analogue to force. Just as a force applied to an object tends to change the linear rate of motion of the object, a torque applied to an object tends to change the object's rate of rotational motion.

Hope Some Of This Helps
dude, the dictonary version is easier to understand... just a thought.
blazed on haze :\ is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Mazda > General Discussion


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:35 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts