-
Grand Future Air Dried Beef Dog Food

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Air Dried Dog Food | Real Beef
Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Pontiac > Grand Prix
Register FAQ Community
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-27-2007, 09:02 PM
chevyguy93 chevyguy93 is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 344
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
bad mileage

I dont exactly know what mileage i'm getting, but i have an 03 GT, and when i first bought it up until a few weeks ago, its been getting great mileage. its got around 130k km's on it. Recently, i've really noticed my gas gauge going down faster than usual. I've also noticed that I dont have as much horse power as I used to. Its slower at accelerating. What could be causing this? I thought maybe i got bad gas, but i've refilled atleast 3 times since then. Any ideas?
__________________
2003 Grand Prix GT
1993 Cavalier 2.2L
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-27-2007, 09:30 PM
Burtnette Burtnette is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 145
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: bad mileage

Have you noticed any other things acting weird with the car?
__________________
CURRENT:
1997 Grand Prix GTP

Mods:
U-bend/Res Delete
3.4"
MSD 8.5mm
TR6s
ZZP 1.0 PCM
72mm TB w/ TB spacer
WizAired CAI
3" DP w/ Borla Pro XS mufflers
================================
OLD:
1995 Dodge Stealth
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-27-2007, 09:41 PM
chevyguy93 chevyguy93 is offline
AF Regular
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 344
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: bad mileage

yes. one thing (i think its unrelated) is electrical. when i start the car, all the lights are dim for a few seconds, as if the alternator hasnt kicked in. then it kicks in and everything brightens up and works correctly. also, when at idle, you can sometimes feel the engine shaking a bit, and the rpms bounce a little.
__________________
2003 Grand Prix GT
1993 Cavalier 2.2L
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-28-2007, 12:27 AM
robnoxiousauto robnoxiousauto is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: bad mileage

you might have a slow oxygen sensor have you had a chance to check them ? What is you're fuel trim you want it to be as close to 0 for long term under most load conditions. or if that car uses block learn and intigrator you want the intigrator to be as close to 128 as possible. Also does you're car seem to have a slight or loud rattle coming from the catylitic converter? Some times the catalyst will come loose causeing high exhaust back pressure which of course will cause higher than normal gas mileage as well as a lack of power and a poor idle. last but no least does you're car use a maff sensor ? do you have a k & n style air filter ? if you do the oil from the k & n can cause the maff sensor to have innacurate readings. the oil will act like an insulator cause a rich condition at low throttle postions and a lean contition at high throttle positions. if any of this stuff does not work do not hesitate to e mail me directly at [email protected]
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-28-2007, 12:46 PM
eippermx's Avatar
eippermx eippermx is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 211
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: bad mileage

Quote:
Originally Posted by chevyguy93
I dont exactly know what mileage i'm getting, but i have an 03 GT, and when i first bought it up until a few weeks ago, its been getting great mileage. its got around 130k km's on it. Recently, i've really noticed my gas gauge going down faster than usual. I've also noticed that I dont have as much horse power as I used to. Its slower at accelerating. What could be causing this? I thought maybe i got bad gas, but i've refilled atleast 3 times since then. Any ideas?
Didn't see anything in your post about the air filter. Have you swapped it for a new one?
__________________
mark

Love my Pontiacs!

'04 GP GT1
'02 Bonneville
'98 GTP - 2 dr
'98 GTP - 4 dr
'99 GP "Flaming Tomato" GT
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-28-2007, 10:17 PM
chevyguy93 chevyguy93 is offline
AF Regular
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 344
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: bad mileage

sorry. i've got the k&n drop in style filter. theres also a noise coming from the front drivers side wheel. it sounds as if the tire is rubbing against something when i listen closely. it makes a "woosh woosh woosh" sound if you go slow. but the tire isnt obstructed. I'm not sure what that could be.
__________________
2003 Grand Prix GT
1993 Cavalier 2.2L
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-28-2007, 10:47 PM
tblake's Avatar
tblake tblake is offline
In God We Trust
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,971
Thanks: 4
Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts
Send a message via MSN to tblake
Re: bad mileage

next time you drive it. When you get out, feel all the wheels. Check to see if they all are the same temperature. If one is very hot, you might have a dragging caliper. This could be the cause of your bad gas milage issue.
__________________
-2000 Grand Prix GTP 170,000mi (daily driver)
-2000 Olds Alero 100,000mi (soon to be DD with gas at $3.45/gal)
-1997 Chev K1500 4x4 115,000mi (Natalie's truck [nans_grandprix])


AF "2.0" Community Guidelines

Conservative Victory 2012!!!

"I'll Keep my Guns, Freedom, and Money. You can Keep the Change!"

----->>>>> Did You Know? <<<<<-----
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-28-2007, 11:03 PM
chevyguy93 chevyguy93 is offline
AF Regular
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 344
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: bad mileage

Okay, hey. That might explain something. Everytime i clean my rims from brake dust, the front drivers side rim gets covered in no time. After a short drive, they would all look clean, but the front drivers side looks horribly dirty. So if it is a caliper issue, do i resolve it with just changing to new brake pads? or do the caliper also.
__________________
2003 Grand Prix GT
1993 Cavalier 2.2L
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-29-2007, 06:59 AM
richtazz's Avatar
richtazz richtazz is offline
stupidity should hurt
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 10,129
Thanks: 2
Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
Re: bad mileage

The caliper slide bolts may be stuck in the bracket, not allowing the caliper to release. Just changing the pads will not cure the issue, but you may just need to free up the slides, so a caliper change may not be needed either. Also inspect the brake hose that goes from the frame to the caliper. As they age, they can collapse internally, thus not allowing the fluid to return and keeping the caliper engaged.
__________________


Still waiting for the "good old days" I'll get to bore my future grandchildren with!

Last edited by richtazz; 10-29-2007 at 05:20 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-29-2007, 07:13 AM
zaifulzin zaifulzin is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: bad mileage

did you try to change/swap your airfilter. Lacked of oxygen 1 of the factor is caused by airfilter.
__________________
links removed by moderator
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-29-2007, 07:35 AM
cmhj2000 cmhj2000 is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 205
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: bad mileage

From my experience the excessive brake dust is telling and should be addressed ASAP.
__________________
Check my home page for lubrication help.
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Pontiac > Grand Prix


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:14 PM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts