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Shifting an auto to race...

I have a 96 Civic EX. And yes, it is an auto, as non-racey as that is. If I need that extra speed when racing someone at an intersection or something, is there a proper way to go about shifting it between D4, D3, and 2? Please explain...
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Old 10-31-2002, 07:19 AM
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i am against shifting through the gears when racing. your tranny shifts at points most optimal under the curve so i say leave it in drive
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Old 10-31-2002, 07:51 AM
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i am against shifting through the gears when racing. your tranny shifts at points most optimal under the curve so i say leave it in drive
I agree. Usually the automatic will shift faster than you shifting through the gears.
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there was another thread about this same subject like last week or so.
i don't reccomend nor endorse shifting an auto like a stick just because you risk the fact of blowing ur transmission...
but if u don't care at a red light rev the piss out of ur car in neutral then smash it into 2
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Aye cranium, I seen your car up on eastbayracing.com, how come youre the only import?
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I agree. Usually the automatic will shift faster than you shifting through the gears.
Having an auto in my Civic, I would have to agree with that, BUT...

It's not entirely true, here's why. Say you are going down thew freeway and get behind a car going we'll say 60-65mph, and that's just too slow for your style, so you change over a lane to pass the slow car. There's quite a many of times I've experienced flooring the gas to accelerate past this slow car, and they tranny will lag for a good 3-4 seconds before downshifting automatically (I'm in D4 the entire time), and so you aren't able to make the pass as quickly as you could if you down shift manually into D3. Doing so will force the tranny to downshift when you want it to, instead of waiting for it to do it itself. Reasons for the lag in D4 I'm not certain of, but I'm assuming the car is maybe trying to match revs, or wait till it's at a certain ratio within a range that's good enough to drop down a gear? I duon't relly know, but I DO know that downshifting in a situation like that will allow you to shift faster than your car would by itself. Still nothing as quick as a 5-speed manual I'll admit.
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my friend went to the track and ran .2 seconds slower manually shifting his auto from when he left it in D4

But if you have an automatic honda, why are you drag racing anyways?
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OK, here it is, trust me on this folks, this method really works, just try it, you'll see a difference if you know your car well. Ok, start out in D3, crank it up to about 6000 RPM or so and shift into 2, crank it up to 6000, shift into D3, if the race is a long one, once your at 6000 again, shift to D4 and finish the race in it. Believe me, this really works well. Just give it a shot. But as everyone said, it's hard on the tranny, but I've never seen anything personally happen to a tranny form doing it, and I've seen alot of races run with this method. Give it a try n see.
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i am the only import on www.eastbayracing.com cuz they just mostly happen to be domestics, but i do their website, so i'm in their group.

as far as me dragging my auto civic, i know it's slow, but when i am in line with a car i know i could beat, it's fun to do so.
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How about starting at D1 then go D2, D3? would that be better?
if i remember correctly, if you start at D3 the tranny will shift at around 4500rpm even if u floor it. But if you start at D1, you can let it rev till 6000 rpm.
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No, trust me, go from D# to 2 to D3 to D4, if u start in 1, there is a huge lag between 1st and second gear shifting, but when in D3, it shifts to second gear automatically, and then u keep it in 2. Then to D3 and so on. Don't go 1234, go 3234. Hope that explains it.
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Neutral Drop it at like 6500 rpm
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dont neutral drop your car, its really bad for it.

also automatics make the best drag racing cars. you run consistant times and you get more consistant rt's. better if you entering competition like brackets because youll always come close to your dial in
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hey, what's the difference between d3 and d4??
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i tried the 3,2,3,4 method. worked nicely. it gave me a bit more low end torque, helped me get off the line quicker, still has a bit of lag going from 1st to 2nd, but can't do any better in an auto i guess. too bad it costs money to get your ECU to shift quicker.
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