Aliens....

[enzo@af]

Who here believes in what and why do you believe whatever you believe?

I've seen all of the photos, I've heard all the slack-jawed yokels talk about little green men visiting them at their cousin's trailer and I've heard all the hype about Roswell....but, I still don't believe it.

If.....that is, IF there is intelligent, extraterrestrial life out there somewhere, and it did try to get here (who knows why...maybe to pick up a Ferrari or a GT-R or something), then let's see...
The closes star to earth is Proxima centauri (correct me if I'm wrong) at around 2 light years away. Now, assuming there is a planet capable of supporting life there, and they sent a rocket out to meet us...think of the fuel consumption! They couldn't make a trip like that because they couldn't hold that much fuel....I assume. But, even if they did use solar sails, or nuclear propulsion from cold fusion or something, that trip would still take a minimum of 2 years (special relativity limits the maximum speed of anything to less than the speed of light....as you approach the speed of light you approach infinite mass, infinite mass would require infinite energy to even budge).

Of course, what about worm-holes? A planet millions of light years away could be just a hop, skip and a jump away from us if worm holes do exist. But, that's just a cracked out theory.

Me, I don't believe in extra terrestrial life forms coming here. I do believe that there is life on other planets. There are so many stars, so many planets out there, that it would be somewhat absurd to think that whatever fluke of nature or grace of God put us here wouldn't do the same somewhere else.

That's my thoughts on the monkey-business. What do yall think?

[Seb928S@af]

Yea I feel the same about it.

[GOD]

Yeah thats kinda how i feel . I believe that were not the only thing out their im sure theirs someone or something else out their ....earth compared to the whole solar system is like compareing a piece of ice to the North pole ....basically i believe their is a whole lot more out their . It's just like when i was a kid i had alot of interest in space and that stuff like star trek . I hope that one day we'll be able to meet someone from somewhere else or be able to go to some far away planet ...imo that would be cool

[Porsche]

I'm 110% sure that we're not alone but, it will take a while before we can visit ET. I also though that the closest star was Alpha Centurai.

P. S. I don't think Aliens would travel 800 billion light years to steal a Ferrari. Maybe a drunk but they probably have transporter beams like in star trek.

[enzo@af]

Well, I'd travel any distance for a prancing horse. But, hey, that's just me. You're kind of right about Alpha centauri being the closest. In fact "Alpha Centauri" is a cluster of three stars...AC 1, AC 2, and AC 3. Alpha Centauri 3 is much smaller than the others, and is a considerable distance away (towards the sun) from the others....so far that it is unknown whether it is bound to the others (which rotate about one another) and is often called proxima centauri. However, the other stars (1 & 2) are more sun-like in size, so I should used them in my model (more likely to have life-supporting planets).

I checked in my almanac and it lists Alpha centauri at 4.4 light years away....which works out to about 25,883,149,610,000 miles!

[TheMan5952]

yea, that Infinate Mass thing really screw everyone over on Faster then Light Travel.

But I still think Aliens exist.

[Lizard King]

I think it would be pretty stupid to think that throughout the whole universe, no other life has formed.

I believe that they have visited us, and continue to do so.

[Porsche]

Well, if they did visit us, we sure wouldn't have evidence or real proof. I think that if they could make it here, they would have some means of cloaking themselves.

If there was no other life, we'd be able to conquer galaxies within a 1000 years or so. Then we have deviations of human life and we'll all end up in a Star Wars type setting.

[JD@af]

Haven't you ever heard of Area 51? There's tons of evidence out there. It's just hidden from the public. It's more government manipulation of the people it's supposed to serve. They think they have the right to decide what we can and cannot know, can and cannot see, etc. The scariest part is how succesful they are in pulling it all off. That's why we continue to need to protect the 2nd Amendment...

I'm getting way off on a tangent here. The arguments for and against ET evidence goes both ways. I personally believe in it, and that the media, while teasing us, manages to manipulate the stories with reality shows that illustrate those that observe Aliens, flying saucers, and UFO's as alcoholics, crazy, or just plain stupid.

As for the notion that we are the only intelligent life forms in the Universe, well mathematical probabilities are just about infinitely SMALL that this is the truth.

[enzo@af]

Originally posted by Lizard King@af
I think it would be pretty stupid to think that throughout the whole universe, no other life has formed.

I believe that they have visited us, and continue to do so.

Why?

[Lizard King]

Why do I believe they've visited us?

Because there are just so many totally believable reports from people. (astronauts, pilots, military men, etc) As well as from regular civilians - they aren't all nutters and hicks.

Also there is plenty of film footage out there.

Sure, there are loads of fakes, and these fakes tend to make the real evidence harder to see and believe. But I believe.

[JD@af]

Agreed with Lizard King.....

[Bean Bandit]

I hope we are not alone in the univers, 'cause if we were it would be a shame!

[Porsche]

Yes, I have heard of Area 51 and I'm well educated on it. I know enoguh to stay away and not ask questions. But we won't know what is there so for the sake of argument, let's just disclude Area 51 because nobody here has any proof of what goes on there. Just also tihnk about all of the other Top-Secret military intsallations that we don't know about.

[Lizard King]

Originally posted by Porsche

Yes, I have heard of Area 51 and I'm well educated on it. I know enoguh to stay away and not ask questions.

We should be able to ask questions. The government has no right to hide things like that from the people.

But saying that, I do find the mystery of it all appealing.