Welfare

[flyguy123]

This one really burns me. How do people get on welfare when they really don't need it. With all of the technology that we have today I just don't understand how they are still milking the system. It seems that alot of people have back problems (back problems suck), so they claim that they can't work because of all of the pain they are in, so they begin collecting welfare. This is fine if they need it but there are so many that don't. Wouldn't something like that show up in a MRI or something? I know a lady that is collecting because she has an irretable bowl and shits her pants (so she claims), don't they make a pill for that? I have known her for 2 years now and yet to see her shit herself. In fact she is in better health than me! So I guess my question is how does this happen? I think the Dr.'s that claim these people can't work because of their patients condition need to be held more accountable, more proof that it is legit. Why should we be paying for people that are just too damn lazy to go to work everyday? Another guy that I know claims he has a bum knee, so guess what....he don't have to work no more. Even though he is in sooo much pain he scraps junk and makes a killing doing it while milking the system. I don't know about you guys but I have had it with shit like this. I drag my ass to work every day even though I don't want to knowing that when its time to retire my SSII won't be there even though I have been paying into it almost my whole life.

[knorwj]

I believe you can turn people committing fraud in for a reward. I'm almost positive about it as far as disability checks go but welfare I'm not so sure.

If you feel that strongly about it maybe you should snap some pictures and turn them in.


However I know from personal experience that just because you are disabled and unable to hold down a normal job doesn't mean you are bed ridden. My own father is in this situation. He was injured on the job over 15 years ago and was out on temp disability. He got a few operations to fix his problem, and after a few months of healing was able to go back to his job. He was never again 100% but he worked hard at what he did. About 5 years ago he reinjured the same injury but at home this time. Once again he went on temporary disability and went for an operation, however this time the operation didn't help so much. Out of frustration and lack of funding My father refused further operations and went out on permanent disability.

He definitely can still do things around the house and such but as far as holding down a 5 day a week job there is no way. When he does a small job around the house he pretty much has to take a few days just to let pain subside. Sometimes its frustrating for the family because he can't do what he used to but who can as they get older right?

Anyway back to my original point maybe the whole story needs to be know in order to distinguish whether these people are truly disabled or not. I'm sure they had to go through all types of evaluations to get on it in the first place. However some people slip through the cracks so who knows.

[skibum1111]

Working in a grocery store I see all sorts of abuse of the welfare system. I do believe that if you are going to collect welfare it shouldn't be comfortable. You should get a month's worth of dry goods and vouchers to pick up all your perishables for the next month. None of this eating t-bones and lobsters shit. If you can't work to earn the money and are just sponging off the system, you shouldn't have it. However, there are some people that are truly disabled and do deserve it. Same thing goes for the earned income credit. If you are collecting welfare, that tax return should go back into the system to help pay for the benefits you collected over the past year. Certainly would make it easier to find the funding if people paid the system back. Ok, rant over.

[knorwj]

haha i know what you mean about seeing the system abused while working in a store. When I was in highschool a guy I knew used to come in all the time with his girlfriend and kid, they were always buying stuff with WIC checks. However I knew the guy from school and knew he had money. He had a sick dsm all tuned and race ready, by far the fastest car in the lot, and everytime I saw the guy he had a huge wad of cash, and yet he fed his kid using welfare wtf?

[flyguy123]

I really never paid any attention to people milking the system till this year. Money has been tight, work is slow, and now I have a baby boy to take care of. We were waiting to have a baby till we were financially stable but these things happen. My wife and I tried the WIC thing but we make like $75 too much a month for a family of 3. It just burns me that people get it when they dont even need it. But we manage, foods on the table every nite, we have a roof over our head and we have each other. Just had to vent a little.

[Oz]

If you truly believe in the concept of Karma, you have nothing to be pissed off about.

[skibum1111]

I look at all these people who make it a way of life and keep thinking of what will happen to them when they hit retirement age. I'll be in the same lifestyle or better, probably better. They will still be sponging off the system. But I can go to sleep at night knowing I've earned everything I have...

[J-Ri]

My co-workers and I were discussing this a few weeks ago. When my Boss was in high school he worked at a grocery store. He said people would come in with food stamps and buy milk, eggs, bread, etc.; then come back in 30 minutes later and buy a carton of cigaretes and a case of beer.

My grandparents know a guy who's on disability for 'back pain', but he's built a 2 story house and a huge garage BY HIMSELF (probably some help for two man jobs, but it was mostly solo). In addition he goes hunting several times per week, and goes skeet shooting almost daily.

There's a certain group of people in Michigan who will rent a house and then live with one family per room. Each family collects a welfare check, and they work, undocumented, at local farms. They send their many children to go fising (no license to pay for under 16) for dinner, and they keep anything they catch. The ones that are too small to clean they boil until the bones are soft enough to eat. I don't know how much they make/save doing this, but their vehicles are MUCH nicer then the average vehicle in the area. A lot of the locals are getting pissed off enough that they're turning them in, and many are getting deported. Which brings me to this: HOW DOES AN ILLEGAL ALIEN GET ON WELFARE?

[ericn1300]

There will always be some who "milk" the system but do you really want to penalize the majority of recipients that truely need help? It really comes down to a matter of enforcement, kinda like our imigration laws. The abusers profit from the lack of oversight and enforcement.

['97ventureowner]

All one has to do to see abuse is to go down to the local Social Services Office. I volunteer time at a local agency that helps disabled people and low income families with obtaining help. Sometimes this includes accompanying them to the office for their interview. I cannot begin to tell you the obvious instances I witness every time I'm down there by people who "appear" to not need the services. There are people dressed in the nicest clothes, yakking on the latest model cell phone while waiting in line or roaming around the large waiting room, and enough bling on their bodies to cover the outside of a car. One instance, I happened to overhear a conversation while waiting with a family for heating assistance. There was a small group seated behind us and the conversation was about cars. One guy ( about 25) said he just bought a Lexus and was going to drive to NYC later in the week. Talk about abuse...it's happening right under their noses at the welfare office .