Starter motor to starter solenoid wire Plymouth Voyager 1993

[Voyag1993]

Hello,

Plymouth Voyager 1993 V6 3.0L - Starter motor to starter solenoid wire. 131000/KM

It failed to start last Thursday and had to get it towed to my mechanic. I usually do all I can myself but at -30 Celsius in brown slush in Montreal isn't really a whole lot of fun.

Diagnosis is a faulty starter.

After a few days of trying to sell it (don't want to sell it, I'm left with no wheels, can't afford another car) I decided to go back to the van in the mechanic's parking and slip under the van. I clearly saw that the wire ( field terminal? not sure the name ) that connects the positive current between the starter motor and the starter solenoid corroded and broke off. I said to myself why not try to start it by jamming a screwdriver to make the contact between the solenoid and starter motor. Called a friend to turn the key since I couldn't manage to get the screwdriver that made the contact stay in place. This worked well and started until the second time I tried ( stupid me put the screwdriver in the oil filter by accident piercing it, details, details, needed an oil change anyways ). I stopped there, was satisfied that my trusty old rag had started.

Told the mechanic about it and he said there was no way to solder a new wire between the starter motor and starter solenoid. The way I look at it is if I can start it by creating a contact with a metal object I should be able to solder it or clip it somehow. He says this wire goes right in the starter and there's no way out. Anyone experienced this sort of issue? Any suggestions, I'm ultra out of cash, cheap solutions most welcome. Don't get me wrong I do trust and respect my mechanic but still trying to save the 1 1/2 hr of labor. Looked at some starter repair kits but this involves removing the starter. Anyone ever soldered this or clipped it?

Another question is there a way to find out if it's a Bosch or NipponDenso ( Denso ) without actually reading the part ( do not have access to vehicle right now )?

Thanks for all your help in advance, much appreciated.

Tom

[Bernard Feltzer]

No reason you can't solder a new piece of wire to replace the defective one.
If you have to remove starter to replace wire, it would be nice to have a heated garage to work in. Use rosin core solder, not acid core.

[Voyag1993]

Thanks for the quick reply Bernard.

So you're saying that soldering is possible on both the Bosch and Nippon Denso starters and that the wire doesn't actually go directly in/out of the starter motor and/or starter solenoid but has terminals?



Thanks for the heads up on rosin core solder.

[Bernard Feltzer]

I don't know what you are trying to say,
If you see the broken or corroded wire, cut it out and splice in a new piece.
If the break is inside the starter, you will have to disasemble the starter.
You can solder directly to a terminal if you want, it's only a starter, not a heart transplant.