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05-25-2006, 03:07 PM
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We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
So like the title says, Mike's 1991 Talon has spark, gas, compression (135 across), and perfect timing but it wont start. It will fire a few times and die. I am out of ideas. Mike is calling a local DSMer to see if he has an extra ECU (he does) and we're going to try that. Other than that, I'm lost. Any other ideas?
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05-25-2006, 03:46 PM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=536256 I knew you already posted this exact thing =P
EDIT: it cranks over or what? It could be one huge boost leak..... I would do a boost leak test.... i know it sound way off but wouldnt hurt
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STATUS: Near completion for the Engine  PROJECT BEST 1G IN IL:70% Done MODS: C2 boost,mbc,B16GEGTurbo,12x28x3x3 FMIC,Ported2gmani,k&n. Being bought in two weeks: Dsmlink,880's,3"exhaust,piping,suspension,axel,dri lled and slotted brakes. 
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05-25-2006, 04:36 PM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
yea im having the same problem and i just opened my ecu and the thing looked like it was on fire at some point
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1992 eagle talon tsi awd xtd stage 3 six puck/apexi 3' downpipe and exhaust/ngk plugs/taylor thunderbolt wires/manual boost controller set at 20psi/walbro 255 with rewire/autometer boost gauge/turbo xs rfl blow off valve/arp headstuds/ to4b vtrim turbo/dnp tubular manifold with o2 housing and tial 38mm wastegate/eagle rods/ross pistons/acl bearings/arp rod bolts/arp main studs/aeromotive fuel pressure regulator and all stainless lines/aem fuel rail/slowboy street front mount kit
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05-25-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
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Good call on the boost leak, one thing I forgot to check was if the IC pipes. Wouldnt that be a bitch, find out that all along its been a half on LICP or something. Mike got that ECU and tried it, no difference. He got it to run for like 3 seconds and then it died. So as I read in my other post, the EGR could be causing it to not run? How would I go about cleaning the injectors? I dont think its the CAS, correct me if I am wrong, but the fuel pump wouldnt turn on unless it got signal from the CAS and we do have fuel (sprayed in my fave when we were checking for spark). Any other ideas?
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Build on hold until I get a good paying job, either in school or once I get out. At that time a full tear down and complete rebuild should be in order. The Purple People Eater will ride again... January 2011 can't come soon enough.
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05-25-2006, 09:41 PM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
Well IM going with a boost leak, because EZ's car did the same thing, with tons and tons of leaks from the head to the smim.
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STATUS: Near completion for the Engine PROJECT BEST 1G IN IL:70% Done MODS: C2 boost,mbc,B16GEGTurbo,12x28x3x3 FMIC,Ported2gmani,k&n. Being bought in two weeks: Dsmlink,880's,3"exhaust,piping,suspension,axel,dri lled and slotted brakes.
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05-26-2006, 12:23 AM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
do you have a boost gauge on that car because, My car Idles at 18-20hg if its showing anything lower I would definately start testing for leaks.
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FP 18g turbo e3 o2 & mani, 3" exhaust, , 7 bolt, wiseco/eagle, walbro 255hp re-wired, Aeromotive FPR, FIC 1150cc, injen intake, greddy RS, aem wideband, turbo xs mbc, act 2600 clutch sprung 6 puck, BC 272's, dsmlink v2.5, ETS FMIC, Devils Own, JMF SMIM. 18 Inch chrome rims In closet AEM Fuel Rail, SS Lines, 1997 TSI AWD Diamonds Are 4Ever 12.7 @ 107 http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...y/DSC00461.jpg
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05-26-2006, 12:25 AM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
I would test for leaks regardless of what a gauge says. A boost test is a simple and effective way to narrow down alot of symptoms.
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05-26-2006, 12:27 AM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
Usually the boost gauge only works while the car is running
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95 GSX:FMIC, 6-bolt, evo 3 16g, 2600 act clutch, 1g bov (crushed), and a 3" turbo back exhaust, dsmlink, dks 272 cams, wideband 02, Coming soon 2.3L Stroker, 1mm oversized valves, crower sprigs. 91 TSI AWD auto, gm 3.5 maf, maft, fmic, emanage, profec e-01, 3" turbo bk exhaust +more little stuff. http://www.ratemydsm.com/member/ez1286/?member=ez1286  
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05-26-2006, 12:32 AM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
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05-26-2006, 12:36 AM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
Do you have injector pulse ????
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05-26-2006, 06:08 AM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
he siad he gets 3 seconds thats enough
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FP 18g turbo e3 o2 & mani, 3" exhaust, , 7 bolt, wiseco/eagle, walbro 255hp re-wired, Aeromotive FPR, FIC 1150cc, injen intake, greddy RS, aem wideband, turbo xs mbc, act 2600 clutch sprung 6 puck, BC 272's, dsmlink v2.5, ETS FMIC, Devils Own, JMF SMIM. 18 Inch chrome rims In closet AEM Fuel Rail, SS Lines, 1997 TSI AWD Diamonds Are 4Ever 12.7 @ 107 http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...y/DSC00461.jpg
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05-26-2006, 04:18 PM
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Re: We have: fuel, compression, timing, and spark. We dont have a running car. HELP!
Well, seeing as how air/fuel mixture shoots into my face witht the spark plugs out and all the plugs are gapped right and sparking, I dont think the coil pack or injectors are having problems. One of our other friends put the LICP on, I bet its not even all the way on. Mike is going to check when he gets home.
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Build on hold until I get a good paying job, either in school or once I get out. At that time a full tear down and complete rebuild should be in order. The Purple People Eater will ride again... January 2011 can't come soon enough.
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