To rebuild or not to rebuild...thats the question...

[mtcs]

with the mods in my last post...

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hey,
now that I have your attention with that catchy title :P, I have posted before a list of mods that seemed very unrealistic and downright stupid. I have been doing some research and have made up a new list. Let me know if this sounds more realistic.

ACT XACT Streetlite flywheel
ACT Maxx Xtreme Clutch Kit
APEXi Super AFC II
DC SPORT Carbon steel strut tower bars (front)
DC SPORT Carbon steel strut tower bars (rear)
GREDDY EVO2 exhaust
GREDDY 660cc fuel injectors
GREDDY Type-S boost controller
ROTORA Crossdrilled/slotted big brake kit
AGP Turbo kit (full race turbo upgrade, race manifold T3/T4 50 trim T3/T4, .63 A/R housing, 700+HP race intercooler kit, HKS SSQV BOV, 38mm Evolution Wastegate 3" Intake)
TEIN EDFC- Electronic Damping force controller
TEIN SS (supper street) Coilovers
WALBRO 255lph HP in-tank fuel pump
NX Nitrous Express dual stage EFI system

Does this sound better than my old list? Anything I should add or drop..?
Still looking for my 500hp mark..Think that I am a lot closer to that mark now than I was with that other sh*tty list!

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I have been told two different answers when the question of rebuilding or replacing my motor with stronger internals. On the one hand, I have been told that my stock internals would withstand the 450-500hp. The hp amount that I am aiming to hit. On the other hand, a few have expressed concern that if i don't upgrade my internals, then I will have big problems when i try to get the eclipses full potential of that 450-500hp.

What do the other fellow DSMers think I should do?

Thanks for any input

[Blackcrow64]

Stock internals will hold up to about 400-450 if they are in really good shape still. The people who do run 450-500 on stock internals just get lucky. If your goal is 500 I would just do it right from the start and build the internals up so you can run as much power as you want without throwing a rod or whatnot. If you are like me though and are gonna stop at about 400hp then I would leave it as stock internals till you blow something up or are ready for more power.

[crunchymilk55]

No way the safc2 can handle 660cc's. You'd never get a decent tune, not even close to 500. Like said above, if you want 500, and want to have it more than a day, you NEED to do the internals, head gasket, etc.

I dont think u realize how hard 500hp is. Start with 300

[mtcs]

Originally Posted by crunchymilk55

No way the safc2 can handle 660cc's. You'd never get a decent tune, not even close to 500. Like said above, if you want 500, and want to have it more than a day, you NEED to do the internals, head gasket, etc.

I don't think u realize how hard 500hp is. Start with 300

Thanks for the help. The thing is...I am not planning on doing any of these mods until I have the cash together...All the cash.. I am not a kind of person that buys parts one at a time and has them sitting around for months on end....I think i will have the engine taken appart....block looked at/ cleaned..and replace the internals. This will all be done in one shot as soon as I get the cash together. Until then I plan on just driving the eclipse with just its 245hp that it has at the moment.

Does this sound like a good idea? Or should I just get a new motor that is already built. Which is more cost efficient? buying a new built motor or replacing the parts on my present one?

Thanks!

[defiancy]

I just built my motor, it's a 2.3 lt stroker with forged internals and an evo3 head gasket, and it cost me $2,400. With all the block work, balancing, and parts.

That motor will be good for 500hp and have a great spool rate, at the cost of lower redline.

But just for example, if you are going to do something might as well do it right, and take your time. I decided to build the engine first so I wouldn't have to worry about it later and mod from there.

[mtcs]

I think what I am going to do is while I am saving up to buy all my mods...I will spend some of that on taking appart my current motor and having it rebuilt with better internals....would be a lot cheaper than buying a completely new motor...