WIP: 1970 Penske Javelin T/A

[SkylineFan]

Lots of you may remember I built the 1970 Challenger that Sam Posey drove for Dodge in the brief 1 year history of Trans AM racing. I sold that model to Ken Epsman the owner of the Posey car that is restored and raced today in the Historic Trans Am series. Ken also commisioned me to build another car he owned, the Penske Javelin in full Penske Red white and blue colors in the picture below.




He sent me the old George Follmer Johan Javelin kit and a set of Cady decals and I got to work after a full 2 years off from the Challenger. Below is pics of the body completely painted and clear coated. All the colors were carefully masked off and painted on. I used AC Delco GM blue, Base White and the same Red I painted my Miller Buick I took to Atlanta. Then it has 3 coats of clear on that. I hope to have this one rolling along fairly soon.

[ales]

That thing looks very menacing! And the model's taking shape quite well too

[Robi J]

Wow Dave, what a clean and sweet paint job !!!

Roberto

[quadzero]

so cool to see a Javelin here. looks really sweet. cant wait to see this one done.

[Eric Cole]

Oh.... this is going to be a treat to watch. I'm looking forward to seeing this come along. I love the vintage race cars.

[Merkava]

Wow, a Javelin! Cool, and very nice paintwork! I look forward to more progress.

[malscar]

Wow Dave. Paint job looks great. I will be watching this closely as I have 2 of these to do. Love the late 60's early 70's racing.
Mal

[mikemechanic]

Looks awesome. Can you tell me what clear that is? Thanks.

[deltableh]

Beautiful job on the paint. That could be 1:1 for all it's perfection!

[bvia]

Posey is an awesome gentleman and the Javelins were awesome as well!

Keep up the great work on this one!

Bill

[tigeraid]

God damn I am loving this, can't wait to see the finished product!

[tonioseven]

Dang, just when you think things can't get any better, you start another project!!

[Midtenn]

Reminds me, I need to go by my local store to see if they still have that Boss 302 lying around. Looks great man. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

[RGBJavelin]

I am new here and I dont want to step on any toes, with that said, that's not a 1970 Penske Javelin T/A. The picture looks like a Roy Woods ARA car, circa 1972, Penske cars had the blue continue down the door about half way, both on the 1970 style Javelin, and the 71-72 style as well. another thing I noticed is the transitions are suppose to be straight, not pointed. The 71-72 Javelins had a 'Sculptured' roof, that kinda looked like T-Tops, and the color transition from red to white folllowed that roof line.

I have'nt figured out how to post pictures yet, but if you go to AMX-perience.com they have a pretty good reference.
http://www.amx-perience.com/Trans-AmRacing.htm

I am a little fuzzy on how this paint scheme went on the 73-74 cars, they had the more traditional smooth/flat style roof.

Finally, the nose stripe was more like a wide version of the 67 Chevy Camaro 'Bumble bee' stripe, but shaped like a 'T', outlined with a pinstripe.

Beautiful paint work though, if historic accuracy isn't important

[SkylineFan]

Originally Posted by RGBJavelin

I am new here and I dont want to step on any toes, with that said, that's not a 1970 Penske Javelin T/A. The picture looks like a Roy Woods ARA car, circa 1972, Penske cars had the blue continue down the door about half way, both on the 1970 style Javelin, and the 71-72 style as well. another thing I noticed is the transitions are suppose to be straight, not pointed. The 71-72 Javelins had a 'Sculptured' roof, that kinda looked like T-Tops, and the color transition from red to white folllowed that roof line.

I have'nt figured out how to post pictures yet, but if you go to AMX-perience.com they have a pretty good reference.
http://www.amx-perience.com/Trans-AmRacing.htm

I am a little fuzzy on how this paint scheme went on the 73-74 cars, they had the more traditional smooth/flat style roof.

Finally, the nose stripe was more like a wide version of the 67 Chevy Camaro 'Bumble bee' stripe, but shaped like a 'T', outlined with a pinstripe.

Beautiful paint work though, if historic accuracy isn't important

Well you did with that last quote. get your facts completely straight before you post......


This is directly from the owner of the car today. Ken Epsman. He is the one I am building it for...

In 1970 Penske built a total of 3 javelins....the first one was used at Daytona and laguna seca...this was a
development car. then penske built the other two which were driven by Donohue and revson for the remainder
of the 1970 season. As you might recall, the Javelin had an engine oiling problem early in the season and blew motor
after motor. Halfway through the season they solved the oiling problem. In the meantime penske went to the Trans Am
officals and lobbied to make dry sump oiling systems legal for the 1971 season...and was successful. So they used the
first Javelin built as the "mock up" car...(Penske/Donahue refered to it as the junkbox car).. So in 1971 Penske gave the
two remaining 1970 javelins to Roy Woods to run in 1971...with all of the 1972 updates...and built 1 car for Donohue to run....
with the understanding that if Donohue crashed his car , he could take one or both of the identical woods cars. Needless to
say, the car were flawless and absolutely outclassed all of the other cars in 1971. ( by the way the woods cars were painted yellow).
Afetr 1971 Penske left trans am racing and gave the AMC sponsorship to Roy Woods...In 1972 Roy Woods javelins won the championship
again. Javelin in 1970 lost the championship by 1 point....if they had solved the engine oiling problem 1 race sooner, Javelin
would have won the 1970 championship also.
Another point....after the 1969 season, Penske sold the 1969 championship camaro to Roy Woods...Roy also painted that car
yellow...as were his Can Am cars....

Needless to say it is a ROy Woods sponsored car.... BUT it was built as all 3 of them were by penske. The paint job is penske. That is why my thread reads Penske. I believe Ken's car is restored as it was in 1972 when Roy Woods had possesion of them But lets not forget these cars did originate as Penske built machines. Maybe RWR totally redid them AFTER Penske gave the AMC sponsorship and the cars to Woods, but they WERE Penske originated cars.
Here is another quote from Ken:

My info came from Jerry Schwarz....he rebodied the cars...he also worked for Shelby
then became roy woods crew chief...also from a penske crew member..."Woody" Woodward...
he looked under my car and noticed a removable cross member under the oil pan....said he
put that on the car in 1970 because they were having to pull the engine each time they wanted to try
a different pan so he added the removable cross member...and he used to sit in the car while Mark
Donohue drove around the race track to watch the oil pressure guage to see what changes to the
oil pan worked....remember the car had no pasenger seat...Tony A is a great guy however he was
the driver not the mechanic.

And......

do you see any small stripe outlining the large stripe on this hood?? that is the car as it is restored today and the one I am building. I know the paint job is not EXACT... but at the time I painted the car I could not find a pic of the blue transition to the white because the hood is in the way of all the shots... regardless, I really dont knowwhat your point was with this thread. Maybe you could show me your build so I can see your "historically accurate" version of the paint job....




DaveT