Speed channel...

[nissanfanatic]

Who else is tired of the Speed channel?

They mind as well make it the NASCAR channel. I mean, even in the off season, NASCAR is on 24/7. And if NASCAR isn't on, its classic car BS where some old dude is riding around with his long lost buddy talking about how great these cars are... Please..

I don't completely intend for these to be insulting or anything, but damn, if these two subjects are so great, then start a separate station for just them. This is similar to ESPN covering a golf event when they have a Golf channel. Its just dumb.

I wouldn't mind flipping on to the Speed channel and seeing D1GP, Formula D, JGTC, F1, WRC, LeMans, CART, those install shows, Two Wheel Tuesday, anything not stock car racing/old guys chatting. And DAMMIT, Top Gear needs to be on Speed too!

And they really need to make a show just about fast ass street cars. IDK about you guys, but I would rather see that than just about anything else. A supra pulling in off the street to lay down 800+whp is just orgasmic. Sorry...

Well throw your opinion in the bowl too. We wanna know what you think about the Speed channel!

[driftking777]

What you just said pretty much sums it up...and I know on G4 they switched Formula D for FastLane...WTF...that great fastlanes an alright show but DAMN...its Formula D...you dont get that on any other damn channel...and yea...Formula D,D1GP, JGTC, F1, WRC, LeMans, CART. Should almost all have there own channels or at least there own set times...because...they probably think that the JGTC cars arent as fast as GT class ect cars...but damn you know they would kick vipers and corvettes asses...i think there scared...but maybe thats me...But yea im def hating on the Speed Channel about now..!

[driftking777]

as another bitch...how come spike TV has way better Shows then A CAR CHANNEL...just not right!

[monooxide]

Im tired of being like man i wanna watch Speed Channel aww shit its...Nascar...I would love seeing any show with Street Cars be it Imports and Some Domestics... I mean these repetitive stupid shows especially in the of season suck. NASCAR isn't the coolest motorsport there is...It sucks when you have people telling you how fast you can and cant go. Just because the Nascar guys cant really make a good decision that 215MPH is too fast for this 190MPH turn...The wrecks in NASCAR is because theres really no seperation in their power and no parts of a Race like turns to seperate the pack. To me NASCAR is the weakest MOTORSPORT period. Anyone think that Nismo could put out a Nascar car and win?

[nissanfanatic]

I think there are street driven cars that could straight up smoke a NASCAR in any given enviroment and be cheaper...

Yea, spike TV has some cool car shows from time to time. Top Gear on Discovery kicks ass too! That British guy that hosts the show is pretty damn funny.

[Pavlo]

Yeah Top Gear is awsome, the show hosts are pretty damn funny. Anyone saw the episode where they tested Porsche 996, Supercharged Jag and a 645Ci in this really fucking huge wet sand area. That was so freakin awsome I started leaking tears.
On speed TV they still have 5th Gear I think, maybe they took it off though as it stoped appearing on Demand.

[XeVeNskyLiNE]

In my opinion, Top Gear is the best car show that rates cars, PERIOD. Their doucmentary and visual are just stunning. The way their cameras look and the monologue, and the music..omgggggggggggggg. It just makes it so movie like, or like you're in a dream. I saw the episode where a Evo FQ400 dueled a Mercielago...My jaw was on the floor! someone coulda cam in my house and stole everything right fomr underneath me and I never wouldve noticed, thats how glued that show had me to the TV.

[slideways...]

nascar is just sad to me
so much money and potential all gone to waste
once in a while they will go and race on a road course and not only will most of the top drivers refuse to race the road course, the ones that do SUCK. seriously ive seen much better skill in scca racing by FAR. those nascar guys cant even take a REMOTELY decent line through any corner! peter cunningham would just DESTROY all those nascar fools IN HIS TSX!!!!

[driftking777]

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

I beg to differ, atleast I don't think anybody's street engine is going to take 9k rpm constantly for a couple hours over 500miles.............

now there are a couple cars that could post a hot lap or two time that is faster then a nascar, it would also depend on the size of the tire, as nascar limits them small

Actually look how many people set there cars up to do stuff like that...alot of people build there street cars to be able to handle track like circumstances...and they havent rebuilt there motor in years...so i think it is very plausable that there are alot of street cars out there that could take Nascars out...You also have to look at the fact that...they run small blocks...they usually only run 5500 rpm...you take a import that usually runs 7-8k rpm and boosting that rpm up 2k isnt as big of a deal as 3k that a small block has to push more...its all about set up of the motor...reducing valve lash, while reducing rotating mass....simple simple...

[orestes]

yeuh omg nobody has ever ever made their motor rev high ouh god

[R.W.240]

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

u sound like a fag orestes

yeah, that was pretty dumb...

and actually making your motor last that long isn't simple.. and it takes loads of money.

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

trust me on this, regular street motors or even these "built" import motors(which mainly consist of cams, forged pistons, forged rods) will not take full throttle for hours on end at top speed....

For the Most Part yeah, I think its more because the Imports with their low displacement have to handle much more heat in a much smaller space than a choked up big block.

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

first off most of you sr20 guys complain of overheating when u abuse it a little bit on the street... guranteed a stock sr20 or even one with forged pistons and rods aftermarket is not going to be able to withstand full throttle top rpm for 500miles straight... you don't really realize what kind of abuse that is. You guys would be overheating after a couple laps....

Most Being??? Retards? Of coarse if you run a Modified SR on a stock KA Radiator a few laps it will get hot. Simple Cooling mods will keep the SR Icy cold in any condition. could it run 500 miles at 300HP per Liter... eh maybe.... but your beloved LS1 would probably shit a brick too after 500miles.

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

as much as nascar seems like old technology, there is a lot of technology into those cars. Pretty much the motor is the only thing you could consider old tech, pushrods and carb....... and even that is exploited HIGHLY. They put out 700-800hp or so I think at a top engine speed of about 9750rpm's... it really depends on the track, some tracks this season cars have been pushing over 10k rpm on the straights... they usually don't finish the race too good though.........

Fair Enough

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

Big ass AP brakes, high tech rear end, tranny is old style, tires are new technology, and the aerodynamics are state of the art. Comparing your street/track prepped 240sx to a nascar is like comparing apples to elephants.

Bigass Brakes? not so Much... wideass... yeah sure. Hightech rear end? A panhard or Watts Link will never be High tech. Aero Dynamics? High tech? who are you trying to kid? just because they spend 200Hrs in a wind tunnel trying to figure out what works but still fits in a gay template doesnt mean its high tech... they cant even run undertrays.

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

if this wasn't true you would see A LOT more little guys running in nascar not sponsored by Budweiser and pepsi..... because any 2k car with 10k of mods would smoke them right? LOL ..... you got a lot to learn.

Yeah... seeing as how the rules would allow that...

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

a few hot laps on a road course with a modified street car IS WAYYYYYYYYY different then 500miles of full throttle top speed, if you think its not you are seriously dellusional. Many street cars bite the dust doing some hot laps.... engines, brakes, tranny's, body damage, rear ends........... i've seen a lot of stuff on a lot of different cars get just completely destroyed from a couple small factors in just a couple laps. They would stand absolutely no chance in a full nascar race.

Just as any Stock Car would get toasted in JGTC. its stupid to to compare street cars to race cars to other race cars.

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

as much as you might think its dumb turning only left, and yeah it might not be as fast as a F1 car, but it is still shitloads better then any 240sx owner that has graced this board ever. your trying to say your street production car with some mods is better then a hand built tube frame chassis car, with light body panels and no compromises.... that is a totally different ball game.

Turning Left is Gay. Once Again Comparing a Stock Car to any kind of S Chassis besides a JGTC car is retarded.


IMO Nascar is retarded because of the Rules and the Retards surrounding it "I reckon I like nascar because I can see the car I drive on the street racin up on dem dere banks". I dont Like the Rules because every time a car becomes 1 second faster they restrict what made it one second faster... Case in point - Roush(I think it was Roush anyhoo) that got the engines to rev to 10,000RPM... Snap! thats not gonna fly! so they changed gearing requirements to make that engine impossible to run and everyones back to 9000RPM Then theres the aerodynamics... weak. Chevys were faster one year so they let the fords and dodges take an inch off that plank that they call a spoiler to keep up... thats not Racing thats retarded corperate marketing at its best.

[orestes]

N1 endurance>>>>>>>>>NASCAR

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your wrong

[240SXSlideStar]

How about a real track? You know, one with like corners and stuff (not a bend, a corner, where you actually have to slow down and downshift). Oh wait, that's right, Nascar cars can't turn right.

[driftking777]

I hate to get into pissing contests but this one is pretty good considering. Anyone like RW240 said SR's dont really get hot when running at RPM as long as proper cooling measures have been taken. And nobody said a SR20 would be able to beat A 700hp small block...but there are motors and cars out there that have the capabalities to "I believe" beat a Nascar...take for instance Skylines...in tuned mode can put out near 800 900hp...and just as reliably as a nascar motor...high reving already and with AWD...or even RWD if you prefer. I am not saying that Nascar doesnt have alot of technology out there...and yes i believe there are regular cars out there that can beat them...no one said a full interior'd car could do it...of course it would be stripped an roll caged just the same as a nascar...And as we have posted many examples JGTC cars could take alot of NASCARs...also look at cars that run the 24hour rolex race...vipers and Corvettes...reaching speeds of 200+ ect...ect...There are to many rules in Nascar...and yes it is to make it competitive...but how can the cars, and technology improve if they keep being taken back...and if one team is dominate it is obviously for a reason...so that team should be penalized becuase if found out something that works? Thats kinda B.S....anywho..i guess my rambling is done until something else is brought up...just remember...no one here to piss someone off...this is just a debate...and a damn good one...keep the debate goin...