You can get it at invoice!

[newzandlovinit]

Hey all,

Just got the Performance model last night - and yes, it can be done at invoice. Just call around, be patient, and you can grab it.

If you talk to a dealer that says "invoice on a Z, it can't be done" (as I was numerous times), get up, walk, and go to the next one....

One dealer said that if I could get it at invoice, I should go back and wave...what do you think?

[kwik maxx]

It seems very strange for a dealership to let one go at invoice

Did you have a trade?

Was it a demo?

How much did you pay for it?

[newzandlovinit]

no trade, only had 16 miles, and was totally clean....

saw the invoice - less than the online ones - around 29 and change...

found a good dealer that says he's interested in volume and service - he sold me. I did a lot of shopping, am in sales, and not easy to convince.

[NissanGuy76]

If he sold i to you at invoice he got his ass ripped!
I work for the # 1 Nissan Dealership in Houston, TX and I know for a fact we would let you walk before negotiating on a Z.
You really shouldnt tell people that cause they will end up passing up the color and options that one dealer might have just cause you have them thinking it can be done!
Please list the dealership you bought it at so that others can experience this!
On one last note.... If you had a problem paying sticker than you obviously dont realize the value of what you had, but personally I dont believe you!

[newzandlovinit]

You said: "I work for the # 1 Nissan Dealership in Houston, TX and I know for a fact we would let you walk before negotiating on a Z."

That is why I didn't buy it from a dealer like you....whether or not you believe me is your choice, but I am the one that wrote the check and am driving it.

Oh, and yes, I do realize the value of what I got - and work hard to pay for it.

People will end up buying/not buying what they want, but it's dealers like you that say it can't be done that drive me insane - Are you the same type of dealer that insists on the $3,000+ ADM on cars when they come out? - a markup that one website calls "Arrogant Dealer Markup"

Is my saying that I got it at invoice so scary to you because your profit machine may be slowly fizziling away - at least until the drop tops come out?

Tip for everyone out there....check out www.carbuyingtips.com before you go - you'll learn a lot about getting a good deal.

[NissanGuy76]

Well let me tell you something PAL, We never sell a car over MSRP, that is not how we got # 1.
But let me share this with you... The only money I make is off commission and I there is nothing I cant stand more than someone like yourself who is just out there to grind out a deal. I only make money off of the profit of the car wich is the difference between MSRP and invoice.

I work very hard for my customers and I know my product well, so I feel that some ass who has to have it at invoice doesnt care about me feeding my wife and kid, and is usually the one who wants the most of me.
If you didnt have a professional salesman than maybe you should get a discount, but still yet, try your hand @ commission sales my friend.

Dont try to make me or my dealership out to be the bad guy because we are not. You should do research as to how dealerships and sales representatives got bad names, it wasnt selling a car at sticker that did it, it was because during WWII the assembly lines were used to make ammunitions,tanks, and plane parts and the Consumer had to apply to the federal government before they could buy a car bo matter how much money they had, thus the dealers took advantage of it and Stuck it to the consumer.
My dealership has never and will never do that.
I resent your IGNORANT remarks, and you are honestly the kind of customer I truly DO NOT WANT.
You apparantly hold no appreciation in a job well done and are self-centered enough to think that people should work for free.

P.S. I noticed you didnt list the dealership or your pics of your Z.

[dentistnotreally]

I hate car salesmen, including Nissancarguy76.

I hate it even more when sales people use this line,"I got kids to feed !".
I bet you((Nissancarguy76) didn't care didly shit about the customers you screw over.

way to go newzandlovinit !

I'm thinking about a nice clean used NSX myself.....hmmmm.

[nissan350ztt]

Originally posted by NissanGuy76
Well let me tell you something PAL, We never sell a car over MSRP, that is not how we got # 1.
But let me share this with you... The only money I make is off commission and I there is nothing I cant stand more than someone like yourself who is just out there to grind out a deal. I only make money off of the profit of the car wich is the difference between MSRP and invoice.

I work very hard for my customers and I know my product well, so I feel that some ass who has to have it at invoice doesnt care about me feeding my wife and kid, and is usually the one who wants the most of me.
If you didnt have a professional salesman than maybe you should get a discount, but still yet, try your hand @ commission sales my friend.

Dont try to make me or my dealership out to be the bad guy because we are not. You should do research as to how dealerships and sales representatives got bad names, it wasnt selling a car at sticker that did it, it was because during WWII the assembly lines were used to make ammunitions,tanks, and plane parts and the Consumer had to apply to the federal government before they could buy a car bo matter how much money they had, thus the dealers took advantage of it and Stuck it to the consumer.
My dealership has never and will never do that.
I resent your IGNORANT remarks, and you are honestly the kind of customer I truly DO NOT WANT.
You apparantly hold no appreciation in a job well done and are self-centered enough to think that people should work for free.

P.S. I noticed you didnt list the dealership or your pics of your Z.

My brother was a salesman. He was very good. He got screwed over by a lot of fellow emloyees unfortunately. You have a family to feed do you??? You know that's not the only job available. You can get another one if you need money. And don't tell me you don't go without money, because my brother would get about 2grand on one deal if the price was right. That's in one day. Yes I admit that is a little weird he didn't post the dealership, nor a picture...

[NissanGuy76]

Its pretty simple guys!
I get commisssion off the profit of a car and not by selling it at cost.
I spend 2-5 hours getting you lined out so you can show off your Z-car and for all my trouble make 75 bucks?
How many cars do you think the best salesman sells per month?

If all cars were sold @ cost you would be sorry for the fact of having to drive to a factory or import a car individually and then you would pay a duty on anything overseas! You would pay more for the car and in fact they would probably go out of business.
how do dealerships keep the lights on?
I dont "screw" anyone and I care a great deal about my customers which is why I give them a professional who cares about their needs and stay on top of my product knowledge so I can show them why it is such a great car!
The Z is the best car for the money and the last time I checked, you and everyone else will go to Foleys or Dillards and pay Retail Price on a shirt or slacks but for some reason you arent getting screwed there.
But omg let someone make a little money off a car and here goes MR. Customer throwing a shit fit!
I dont care if you hate me cause you probably hate a lot of people, but I like my job and the mark up in any Nissan is marginal compared to other vehicles.
I mean, without a salesman you cant buy a car, so next time you go to buy one please tell me you hate me so I wont waste time on you cause money is not so important that I would WORK WITH AN ASSHOLE to draw a check.
95% of my customers like me and I like them as well.
The others can go some where else for all I car!
Its not arrogance, its simply mutual respect, and I should not be begrudged for trying to make a living.
So the next time you go into Foleys or Dillards you go ahead and tell them you wanna see the invoice on all your clothes before you buy them and they will throw your ass out of the store!

[NissanGuy76]

P.S. I could not ever make even $1,000 unless some guy ordered all kinds of wierd extra shit from aftermarket.

I just wish everyone would try sales for just one month and then maybe they would change their minds.
Yes, there are terrible salesman and dishonest people out there but how is selling a car @ sticker dishonest? Especially when you have a fantastic product.

[nissan350ztt]

I agree with you. But on a 40 grand car you can make 1k or more if the person has even one accessory (which most cars do). My brother has did this once or twice and it is very hard to do. True, there are a lot of salesmen that bs you and suck up to you the whole time, even after you have already paid for the car, when does it stop?!? Now I do think it is wrong that if someone can only pay so much for a car, find the price they want, go to get it, and can't because dealers want to make money, then they just let them walk off and say "they'll be back" (I have heard this numerous times lately). My Mother and Father just bought themself a automobile. My Mom got ripped off by the financer (even though my Dad was with her), my brother was with my Dad when he got his, and he didn't get ripped off. I like salespeople who treat you like a friend and not like a customer. BTW, do you have a suggestion of a honest #1 (iyo) dealership in GA that has Z's??? Also, I do think it isn't fair for people to waste your time deciding if they like the price or not when you could be getting another customer setup to buy so you actually make something...

[dentistnotreally]

you only see things in your tunneled perspective....like a typical salesmen.
if there was no salesmen(boy do I wish), don't you think there would be other means to buying a car ? duh ?

last time I checked, making $75.00 for working 3.5 hours average ((2+5)/2) is pretty dame good. let's see that equals to $21.43 dollars an hour average but you're not happy with it ?? you need a reality check.... like you say it's pretty simple.

see the problem with the sticker price is that it could be and most likely inflated numbers so how can consumers feel comfortable about paying sticker ?? bottom line, if you're paying sticker you're paying too much period.

what the hell are you doing in this board anyway car salesman, go out there and sell some cars you got wife and kids to feed remember ??

[nissan350ztt]

Originally posted by dentistnotreally
you only see things in your tunneled perspective....like a typical salesmen.
if there was no salesmen(boy do I wish), don't you think there would be other means to buying a car ? duh ?

last time I checked, making $75.00 for working 3.5 hours average ((2+5)/2) is pretty dame good. let's see that equals to $21.43 dollars an hour average but you're not happy with it ?? you need a reality check.... like you say it's pretty simple.

see the problem with the sticker price is that it could be and most likely inflated numbers so how can consumers feel comfortable about paying sticker ?? bottom line, if you're paying sticker you're paying too much period.

what the hell are you doing in this board anyway car salesman, go out there and sell some cars you got wife and kids to feed remember ??

That's a bad attitude, he is a person...grow up.

[NissanGuy76]

Well a good salesman sells between 9-12 cars per month!
Usually stays at the dealership about 10 hours a day !

Do the math my friend.
Nobody is getting rich selling cars, we are just getting by.

P.S. what do you do for a living that makes me such a scumbag?
How many times have you cheated on your wife Mr. Dentist?
Who do you thinkyou are to judge me?

Before you go calling me names and acting like an ass, why dont you take a long hard look in the mirror in the morning!

[NissanGuy76]

nissan350tt,
Sorry I dodnt respond, I will look for dealerships in GA with High CSI scores for you and post again!
I go to work tomorrow afternoon and I will see what I can find.
I appreciate your kind words.