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Old 08-31-2005, 03:45 PM   #1
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Where is our aid?

Now that the hurricane is over and left behind hundreds dead and tens of thousands homeless without food or water I want to know one thing.


Where is the aid from other countries?
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Old 08-31-2005, 03:55 PM   #2
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12 countries have already signed on to render help. One of them being Germany. I believe they were actually the first to offer help.
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Old 08-31-2005, 03:56 PM   #3
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Re: Where is our aid?

Any money comming in?
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Old 08-31-2005, 03:58 PM   #4
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Re: Where is our aid?

They don't deserve it. Because they're dumb. In most states it's illegal to build a home on a flood plain. New Orleans is a city built under sea level.
If somebody builds their house in an errupting volcanoe - are you going to feel sad for them when it burns down? You'd think more people'd take the moral of the "build your house on rock, not on sand" story from the bible to heart. Yeah it's sad people died, but it's not like these people couldn't have done anything to save themselves.
Secondly the U.S. government has more than enough money to do everything that needs to be done - that is if it hasn't already been wasted on weapons we'll never use.
Any country that sends money is only supporting that this sort of disaster happens again.
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:05 PM   #5
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Re: Re: Where is our aid?

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They don't deserve it. Because they're dumb. In most states it's illegal to build a home on a flood plain. New Orleans is a city built under sea level.
If somebody builds their house in an errupting volcanoe - are you going to feel sad for them when it burns down? You'd think more people'd take the moral of the "build your house on rock, not on sand" story from the bible to heart. Yeah it's sad people died, but it's not like these people couldn't have done anything to save themselves.
Secondly the U.S. government has more than enough money to do everything that needs to be done - that is if it hasn't already been wasted on weapons we'll never use.
I will address the second part only. The first part wasn't worth commenting on.

We have more than enough money? Most countries we offer help to have more than enough money also but they have no problem accepting it. Also it's not the US governments money. It's our money.
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Old 08-31-2005, 06:00 PM   #6
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They don't deserve it. Because they're dumb. In most states it's illegal to build a home on a flood plain. New Orleans is a city built under sea level.
Dumb... How do you figure? Most people who live there make less than minimum wage and live in deplorable conditions. Not because they want to... But because they have no other choice.

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Yeah it's sad people died, but it's not like these people couldn't have done anything to save themselves.
Like what exactly? The only shelter they had ( the superdome) ended up becoming a giant strainer basket. PLUS the fact that less than 10 percent of all the residents of the lowest areas had NO TRANSPORTATION!

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Any country that sends money is only supporting that this sort of disaster happens again.

So let me get this straight.... If you live on the east coast your an idiot due to the threat of HURRICANES
Sooooo based on your logic....
If you live in the midwest your and idiot due to TORNADOS
If you live in the northwest you an idiot due to SNOWSTORMS
If you live on the west coast your an idiot due to EARTHQUAKES
Where in the hell do you live that is so free from natures fury?
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I will address the second part only. The first part wasn't worth commenting on.

We have more than enough money? Most countries we offer help to have more than enough money also but they have no problem accepting it. Also it's not the US governments money. It's our money.
Yea no shit. The government doesn't pay for shit. We the tax payers do. We can, need and must accept any help brought to us from other countries. It will help us out financially and for petes fucking sake we deserve help from other countries for a change. So many of them owe us billions as it is, the least they can do is send food and water. I'm tired of everyone thinking the U.S. should be helping every country out. I was actually going to bring up this topic until i heard about us getting help this morning.
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Re: Where is our aid?

Any idea where to get a story on what was offered?
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Secondly the U.S. government has more than enough money to do everything that needs to be done - that is if it hasn't already been wasted on weapons we'll never use.
Any country that sends money is only supporting that this sort of disaster happens again.
Yep we have enough money! Like how they cut funding for the flood gates that broke and caused this huge disaster!

I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if you had family and friends down there.
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I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if you had family and friends down there.
That is oh so true. It's always different when something happens to someone or something youare connected to in someway but then is meaningless when happening to others.
And countries can start sending in law enforcement or military to help with all the looting going on.
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Re: Where is our aid?

i think that to an extent the govt. is not doing all that it possibly could. as far as the rescues go, i mean, one would think that they could get a bunch of boats, float around and find people that are stranded. there was a story on NBC's nightly news about a guy that brought 4 air boats down and was floatin around looking for people. if ONE guy can bring FOUR boats, what can the govt. do? (granted i have done a lot of research or anything on this so far so i may look like i don't know what i'm talking, that's fine, please correct me if i'm wrong)

unfortunately i think we may see sort of the same problem that there was in India when the the tsunamis hit. there were plenty of relief items and everything, but it was VERY hard to find places to store it all. most of the warehouses in new orleans were either destroyed or badly damaged. add in the factor that cars can't get around that well with all the water, it's really hard to distribute all the supplies. top it off with the fact that communications are down, you're looking at some serious aftermath problems.

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sorry for the semi-ranting on here. had to get the ideas off my chest, this always is a good place to do that
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Re: Where is our aid?

I have some friends in that area, found out they are alive and ok.

The news has been soo busy covering what is and has happened that they fail to say other countries are sending help. Things like this bring countroes together.

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Old 08-31-2005, 08:41 PM   #13
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The problem woth the Govt bringing a bunch of boats out is that the govt doesn't own a bunch of boats, At least not the size needed. They do have a lot of open sea and large lake vessels but not the smaller boats. I think private boat owners are the best bet in that situation.

I get what you are saying though. Is the govt using all it's resources to help? I hope so. We pay enough for all those resources. I certainly hope we are getting at least some of our moneys worth.
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Old 08-31-2005, 08:57 PM   #14
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What's the situation with the levees? Are they gonna plug em up, or do a complete rebuild?
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Last I heard is they were looking for a barge to plug one of the holes. I imagine they will try and rebuild them. They will probably sink some major Federal dollars into the rebuild this time around.
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