Is someone biased?

[ZackKVtec]

Ummm, before i reply to this can some of you people take a look at this.

Originally Posted by TheRedPill

I had a 1997 GSR and did the whole JRSC at (in th end) 13lbs., and having owned many forced inducted Honda's, I will recommend doing a turbo, or a custom turbo on that car. I will never do another JRSC, not because it didn't work, because the bang for buck was bad, you had to spend many $$$ to upgrade(i.e. make faster), and my fastest e.t was 13.8 in the 1/4. I had a SOHC 92 Civi Si, with a greddy kit, and a few mods, tuned, that ran a 13.7. I spent more on the GSR than the Si also. Just trying to give good advice. The GSR @ 13 lbs. dyno'ed at 208 at the wheels, the Si @ 198, it was lighter and faster, and close on HP. I have built 3 friends custom turbo setups, with stock bottom/engine, the best HP @ 342, with built block(sleeved) @ 408. Just depends on your $$$$.

I Replied with this.

Originally Posted by ZackKVtec

WHAAAAT?? you ran a 13.8 at 13lbs of boost on a gsr with 208 whp??? tell me now, what was wrong with your car, did you not support the fuel needs of the engine? did you have your timing at ~6 deg BTDC with no form of timing control? where you running on 3 cylinders? Also, what was your trap speed?

and then the all-knowing Dampachi replied as follows:

Originally Posted by dampachi

Dude. That's what those cars run. They put down what? 120whp stock? And run high 14s? Add 80hp and voila. High 13s.

Now, i just want to know, am i the misinformed one here because that last quote reeks of ignorance, or am i optimistic. I look at that response and think.... They come with 145 whp stock. They run mid 15's stock. 13 psi adds 80 hp? 80whp gain brings you from high 14 to high 13? Does anyone else see what i see?

[CivRacer95]

Look here:


http://www.jacksonracing.com/SiteGra...ntegragsr2.gif

If you notice, on 6 psi, the GSR is making 208 whp. TheRedPill obviously didn't know what he was talking about to begin with. And more than likely didn't own a GSR. 13 psi and he was only able to make 208 whp and he spent uber amounts of money just to get it to run a 13.8. He's an idiot.

Stock and with a really good driver, the GSR could pull off a low 15 high 14 sec run. With the JRSC right now, you could more than likely pull off a high 13 low 14 run. At only 6 psi nonetheless. You are not misinformed at all. The other guy doesn't know what he is saying. If that guy was running 13 psi, he would be in the low 13 high 12's range I believe. Don't take my word for it, just guesstimating. All in all, you seem to know very well how you are doing and just do a little research next time .

[clawhammer]

I think Civ is right on this one. Isn't like 1 psi = 10whp? So 6 psi = 60 whp (usually, could very well be 80), 13 psi = 130 whp. The gsr came with 170 hp at the flywheel, so 142 at the wheels doesn't sound too bad. Now 13 psi would at least double that, so 250-300 whp is possible IMO.

[dampachi]

I'm sorry my comment "reaks of ignorance" because it's not what you want to hear. Putting down 200whp..depending on how you drive..you COULD see high 13s. And that's if you gain TWO TENTHS per 10 horsepower. The general rule of the thumb is 1 tenth/10hp. If it runs 15.5 stock..80whp more puts it to 14.7 (what honda tuning had a JRSC integra running)..so in order to run a 13.9..you'd need to lose 8 more tenths. A total of 1.6 seconds. With 80whp. It sounds to me like you're being ignorantly optimistic.

[dampachi]

Originally Posted by clawhammer

I think Civ is right on this one. Isn't like 1 psi = 10whp? So 6 psi = 60 whp (usually, could very well be 80), 13 psi = 130 whp. The gsr came with 170 hp at the flywheel, so 142 at the wheels doesn't sound too bad. Now 13 psi would at least double that, so 250-300 whp is possible IMO.

13psi isn't going to 'atleast double that'. You'd need 14.7 PSI of boost to double stock horsepower. With one bar of boost I still don't think you'd break 300whp.

[ZackKVtec]

Originally Posted by dampachi

I'm sorry my comment "reaks of ignorance" because it's not what you want to hear. Putting down 200whp..depending on how you drive..you COULD see high 13s. And that's if you gain TWO TENTHS per 10 horsepower. The general rule of the thumb is 1 tenth/10hp. If it runs 15.5 stock..80whp more puts it to 14.7 (what honda tuning had a JRSC integra running)..so in order to run a 13.9..you'd need to lose 8 more tenths. A total of 1.6 seconds. With 80whp. It sounds to me like you're being ignorantly optimistic.

no bud, its not what i want to hear, because its pure stupidity. GSR with 13lbs of boost will not have 200whp unless something is seriously wrong. yes 200 whp will bring low 14 high 13. But thats with 6-8 psi. Why dont you go gain 190^6! RWHP from your 6 psi vortec. Biased.

[dampachi]

Originally Posted by ZackKVtec

no bud, its not what i want to hear, because its pure stupidity. GSR with 13lbs of boost will not have 200whp unless something is seriously wrong. yes 200 whp will bring low 14 high 13. But thats with 6-8 psi. Why dont you go gain 190^6! RWHP from your 6 psi vortec. Biased.

160rwhp with 8psi. Don't be mad at me because your car isn't as fast as you hoped it'd be. I don't get where all this hostility is coming from.

[ZackKVtec]

Originally Posted by dampachi

160rwhp with 8psi. Don't be mad at me because your car isn't as fast as you hoped it'd be. I don't get where all this hostility is coming from.

My car is plenty fast. I've said it before and ill say it again, you love to up your shit and down others, i think you should've gone to preschool and learned how to make friends. Every thread about a JRSC GSR, you've chimed in at one time or another... "oh that runs what a mid 14" its like you have some kind of complex.... "well if my mustang GT can only run mid 14's well than i guess his car can only run mid 14s" Do you even look at my posts before you reply. I stated facts and then you just spurt out some stupid reply. You're the ricer of mustangs. Go put a sticker on your car. Maybe, just maybe you'll get that 160rwhp rofl.

[dampachi]

Originally Posted by ZackKVtec

My car is plenty fast. I've said it before and ill say it again, you love to up your shit and down others, i think you should've gone to preschool and learned how to make friends. Every thread about a JRSC GSR, you've chimed in at one time or another... "oh that runs what a mid 14" its like you have some kind of complex.... "well if my mustang GT can only run mid 14's well than i guess his car can only run mid 14s" Do you even look at my posts before you reply. I stated facts and then you just spurt out some stupid reply. You're the ricer of mustangs. Go put a sticker on your car. Maybe, just maybe you'll get that 160rwhp rofl.

You stated facts? Where? I think you've got this turned around a little bit..I stated facts whereas you got all huffy and made another thread about how I am biased. And make friends? WTF..I'm not here to be your friend. I'm here to talk about cars. And yes, you car most likely runs around a mid 14. Sorry, I can't help that. I'm glad you're amused at your own joke..I'd put my car up against yours anyday. I'd even set you out a few cars to make it more fair.

BTW: where are you located?

[-Jayson-]

dampachi your seriously wrong, stop showing us all how much of an ass you can be. with 13 PSI, that thing should be putting down alot more HP than 208. And your theory about times and added boost. So off its not even funny. You need to experience boost on your own car before you can talk about it. I ran a 16.1 without boost boost, i added boost 4.5 PSI, and i ran a 14.7. So wait a minute i lost 1.4 seconds, according to your theory of 1 tenths a second per PSI, i should only be about 15.5 right now.

And for once, could you not be an ass in a discussion by trying to put down someone elses car because your stock mid 14 second Mustang is such a godly car.

[ZackKVtec]

Originally Posted by dampachi

You stated facts? Where? I think you've got this turned around a little bit..I stated facts whereas you got all huffy and made another thread about how I am biased. And make friends? WTF..I'm not here to be your friend. I'm here to talk about cars. And yes, you car most likely runs around a mid 14. Sorry, I can't help that. I'm glad you're amused at your own joke..I'd put my car up against yours anyday. I'd even set you out a few cars to make it more fair.

Originally Posted by ZackKVtec

GSR with 13lbs of boost will not have 200whp unless something is seriously wrong. yes 200 whp will bring low 14 high 13. But thats with 6-8 psi.

<--- facts

You did you state facts in that other thread. We already succeeded in showing you how wrong every "fact" you made in that post was horribly wrong. I'm located in RI, I'll be heading up to epping, NH once i get my head swapped. At which point i would love to race you. I'd put money on it, and i ain't a betting man.

[dampachi]

Originally Posted by ZackKVtec

<--- facts

You did you state facts in that other thread. We already succeeded in showing you how wrong every "fact" you made in that post was horribly wrong. I'm located in RI, I'll be heading up to epping, NH once i get my head swapped. At which point i would love to race you. I'd put money on it, and i ain't a betting man.

I live in Baltimore, MD. $1,000 to play. Make it happen, buddy.

[drftk1d]

zack, LEARN TO USE PM's

if you have a problem with dampachi then PM him. why clutter the forum with an arguement that is basically between the two of you.

dampachi lives in murryland so you'd have to travel south again.

[ZackKVtec]

Originally Posted by dampachi

I live in Baltimore, MD. $1,000 to play. Make it happen, buddy.

Hey, who knows what will happen this summer. Would i be racing your GT as it is now? or do you have a 150 shot waiting for me?

[CivRacer95]

Originally Posted by dampachi

I live in Baltimore, MD. $1,000 to play. Make it happen, buddy.

Calm down kiddies. This isn't high school. Well sorta...

As for the race, get it on vid. I put $50 on Zack. Sorry dampy. But I don't think your MGW shifter will help you out. Although, it should be a pretty good race. If it ever happens that is.

Everyone just needs to chill here though.