1994 toyota supra vs. 1993 mazda rx7

[xyz7]

To me between these two cars the overall best in the rx7, engine performance, dynamics and estetics, clearly rx7 is better. Check out their pics a www.turtlewaxtour.com/gwt_main.html

[D3rELiC]

u a tool? the inline 6 can take 1000 hp on stock botom end

[drftk1d]

probably better on a road course or touge.

spam master.

[ghostrx7]

supra=more reliable, and heavy
rx7, lighter more nimble, less reliable.
supra is more expensive also.

[BlindspottNZ]

the 2jz is a craaazily good engine, id take it over a Rb26 any day.. and id deffiently be tempted to take it over a 13b


but! bring on the 20B and let the supra boys feel the fury!!



if anyones interested i can get a link to a FD a shop called SP Engineering in australia did, twin turbo 2JZGTE conversion.. and it is a VERY good job. Its very rare in aus/nz for somone to swap out a rotor for a piston motor but this one is just pefect

[drftk1d]

yeah i think everyone knows about the sp supra 7.

btw sp engineering is in california.

[Soyo]

lol





nothing else to say

[BlindspottNZ]

Really? I thought it was over here because i had seen their cars before

So im guessing youve seen the car then? Its rather nice

[ghostrx7]

ya, its yellow right? only in my dreams!that car must be f-ing rediculous!

[drftk1d]

i'd rather a supra engine not be anywhere close to a rx7 bay. thats just me.

[D3rELiC]

yea, theyre like sworn enemy

[BlindspottNZ]

i didnt say it was right, but its got novilty value :P

at least its not a god damn 50 year old pushrod v8

[tubjub]

personally i think with equal work, both cars would be quite capable, but the stock 2jz motor (correct me if i'm wrong) is somewhere in the neighborhood of 300hp ? with just as much torque to back it up. a 13b out of an fd is just about the same "horsepower" but not as much torque. as to commenting what someone said earlier in this thread, an inline 6 probably could take 1000hp on a stock bottom end, and its not that unrealistic... try to pull 1000hp out of a 13b and see how much trouble you have. there are 1000hp supras that eat vipers alive at 8 second 1/4 miles, i'm sure you guys have seen them in the sport tuner mags. an equally equipped 7 would be DAMN fast, but ported to hell and back and barely streetable in my opinion, and that's COMING from a rotary owner, rotary's rock but pistons rule raw hp and drags.... period.

now i've never seen the innards of a 2jz toyota I-6, but i know that turbo mitsubishi 4g63t engines have braced bottom ends, all main caps come off as one piece that's also part of the bottom of the block (anybody know what i'm talking about ?? ) i was at a local speedshop the other day, and they were assembling that engine, after flowbenching the head and they said that particular setup was stock... i was amazed

i do know the toyota i-6's will take a beating, a SEVERE beating, you will most likely bust a piston skirt or snap a rod before you will spin a bearing... as goes for most of their motors, but that's just my personal experience with about half a dozen of them

now i give my 7 a licking and its showing stress... i don't know how a freshly built rotary would hold up, i'm kinda new to the scene

anywho, read the signature....

[BlindspottNZ]

there are 1000hp 13Bs out there, but not in streetable form... you can get 1000hp out of a regular street driven 2jz! there are several street driven 8 second supras in the world

Personally i believe the 2jz is superior to a 13b, but they are totally different so it really isnt much of a comparison. Stock for stock a Fd and a new supra should be fairly equal, maximum horsepower.. the supra has it.

But like a said before, bring on a 20B and bye bye mr supra and its not like rotors are limited in ANY way, if the 20B doesnt do it, go get a 26B. If that doesnt do it, then go bigger again

[D3rELiC]

Originally Posted by BlindspottNZ

there are 1000hp 13Bs out there, but not in streetable form... you can get 1000hp out of a regular street driven 2jz! there are several street driven 8 second supras in the world

Personally i believe the 2jz is superior to a 13b, but they are totally different so it really isnt much of a comparison. Stock for stock a Fd and a new supra should be fairly equal, maximum horsepower.. the supra has it.

But like a said before, bring on a 20B and bye bye mr supra and its not like rotors are limited in ANY way, if the 20B doesnt do it, go get a 26B. If that doesnt do it, then go bigger again

but if we put the engine figure asside, the overall performance winner should be the rx7 if its driven on a track, but i wonder if stock, the supra still have problems putting their power down.