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Old 02-07-2005, 05:38 PM   #1
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Question does this seam worth the money?

from import tuner............dyno test


AEM Intake $250
APEX WS Exhaust $540
Landscaped PowerCore Header $360
MSRP Package Price $1,150

Performance Chart
HP Level HP+ TQ Level TQ+
B Baseline Power 95.2 * 81.5 *
1 Intake 97.9 /2.7 /89.8 8.3
2 Exhaust 97.1 /-0.8 /91.2 1.4
3 Header 104.2 /7.1 /92.3 1.1
F Final Power 104.2 /9.0 /92.3 10.8
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Old 02-07-2005, 05:43 PM   #2
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

the thing you have to keep in mind is alone the gains may be minimal... but you start doing other things to the car, like a nice lumpy cam, or a supercharger with that setup and its more worth while...
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Old 02-07-2005, 06:00 PM   #3
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

over $1000 for I/H/E is way too expensive...you can get a custom 2.5 inch exhaust for a few hundred, dc headers for like $150 or something off ebay, and intake for $100+ (depending on if it's a cold intake or not). The only way you will get good gains is either going Forced Induction or by bumping up compression and building up the engine.

But to answer your question, i/h/e is a great (and necessary) first step to helping your engine to breathe and open up ways for more upgrades, but you can do it without spending so much money. Shop around. And with the money you save you can buy more worthwhile things for your car

And don't pay attention to the "hp gains" you get from i/h/e. They're almost always wrong.
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Old 02-07-2005, 10:40 PM   #4
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

Depends if its "worth" it to the person spending the money.

To me, no, not even close. But some people seem to think its worth it obviously..
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Old 02-07-2005, 11:58 PM   #5
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

i got my cold air for $50 shipped on ebay. Its a little harder to get an exhaust but for hatches and crx's you can get em for cheap from ebay too, of course theyre not the best but who cares. And headers are easy to get too. Those ssautochrome headers seem pretty promising.
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:05 AM   #6
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

The guys at Import Tuner (and all the magazines) love to spend money so they don't give a f*ck about shit like that. I seriously doubt any rational person is going to spend over a grand to make 10hp/tq...
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Old 02-08-2005, 01:12 PM   #7
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

for my exhaust all i did was got the pacesetter one for our cars, eliminated their bumblebee sounding muffler, put a factory honda resonator on it with an arospeed universal muffler and it sounds good plus i noticed a little more pep with my car.. 2.5" catback for like $125
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Re: Re: does this seam worth the money?

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for my exhaust all i did was got the pacesetter one for our cars, eliminated their bumblebee sounding muffler, put a factory honda resonator on it with an arospeed universal muffler and it sounds good plus i noticed a little more pep with my car.. 2.5" catback for like $125
Isn't a "factory honda resonator" only like 1.5" in diameter?
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

I got a great name bard set up for a whole lot cheaper... the Iceman cia was like 110 bucks, the Thermal exhaust was like 540 shipped, and my DC 4-2-1 cremaic was 150 slightly used... but damn does my car sound nice...
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Re: Re: Re: does this seam worth the money?

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Isn't a "factory honda resonator" only like 1.5" in diameter?
mine wasnt.. im not sure what it is off of.. it looks like a glasspack with honda stamped on it.. it was 2.5 in and 2.5 out
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

would any i/h/e work on any engine?
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

i kinda think it's worth it but that is alot of money
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Is that the D16A6 build up that they did? I have that issue, but haven't looked through it in a while...

If that is the article where they built up the A6, then there is NO WAY that comparison is worth the $$$.

For less than a grand you could swap in a bone stock D16Z6 or D16Y8 (even cheaper if you have an Si) and have twice as much of a gain as you would if you bought those bolt-ons.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:43 PM   #14
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

yeah it's the D16A, and true you could just swap, but what is easer to do?
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Re: does this seam worth the money?

I guess that's to the wheels. And yeah, it's a lot of money. I hear ceramic dc headers go for $150 on ebay now. A decent cold air intake (with a clean bend in the "to the bumper" piece) can be gotten cheap (unless you shopped where I did). A custom cat-back set-up can be done for less than $200 with a decent canister or dynomax turbo (oem style) muffler. Let's see that leaves you with another $500 to spend on stuff like pulleys, a beefier cam and maybe a fpr. Then you'd have all that I have minus the fpr and would be able to keep up with any stock z6.
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